Thanking John Fox -- and a prediction

Normally in this space on Friday, I try to break down the Panthers' next game and offer a prediction as to how it will turn out.

I'll do the prediction only this time -- I think Atlanta will win 38-6 -- but otherwise will leave the rest of the notes on the Panthers-Atlanta game for the "Scott Says" version that will be published in the print edition of our Sunday sports section.

Instead, I want to talk about John Fox for a moment here. Fox has had his ups and downs as a Panther coach over a nine-year period, and certainly there are things he could do better.

But in general, I want to commend Fox, who was officially told by Jerry Richardson what we have all known for a long time Friday -- that his contract (and the contracts of his assistants) will not be renewed for 2011.

Fox is a good man and a good coach, and this about-to-be-2-14-season is simply a bad ending for him. He will rebound from this.

I got an e-mail this afternoon from a reader named Joshua Spurlock of Charlotte who wrote:

Scott,

Any chance you could do a post or a story allowing us Panther fans to thank John Fox for his time as coach? He deserves to hear our appreciation and it would be nice to formally post it somewhere online. If so, here are my comments:

Coach Fox -- Thanks for the memories, especially that amazing Super Bowl run. Some of my all-time favorite sports moments came during your years as a Panther. Thanks for never quitting and never letting your players quit, either. Hope you have a great run with your next team, and for our sake that it's in the AFC.

Joshua

If anyone else would like to chime in like Joshua and thank Coach Fox for some moment over the past 9 years -- now that the Panthers have finally made it official and said that Fox won't return in 2011 -- feel free to comment below.

My first impressions of Luck

Andrew Luck gets it.

This is what everyone you ask seems to say about the Stanford quarterback, and that was my first impression as well after I asked Luck some questions for the first time Friday.

The redshirt sophomore will likely be the No.1 pick in the 2011 NFL draft if he chooses to come out early. That’s what Carolina Panther fans are hoping for, of course, but Luck made no indication which way he was leaning on that huge decision that must be made by Jan.15th.

“It’s not a forbidden topic or anything, but I really am trying to avoid thinking about it until after this game,” Luck said, speaking of No.5 Stanford’s Monday night Orange Bowl showdown against No.13 Virginia Tech.

I was seeing Luck in person for the first time Friday, and he struck me as both humble and whip-smart. As far as his physical presence, he’s an absolute hulk compared to, say, Jimmy Clausen. At 6-foot-4 and 235 pounds, Luck has the size that NFL scouts crave. He also has an arm that one longtime observer of the Stanford football program calls “as good as John Elway’s when he was in college there.”

Luck didn’t shy away from “Will you stay or go?” questions at his news conference in Fort Lauderdale Friday and later in a smaller gathering with several reporters that included me. But he didn’t say much about the decision either.

“It’s a big life decision, and I better put some thought into it,” Luck said.

Luck does sound like he truly enjoys the college experience – he carries a 3.5 grade-point average in his architectural design major. He is also a big fan of the other Stanford athletic teams, staying up to watch Stanford’s women’s basketball team upset Connecticut and ended its 90-game win streak Thursday night.

He said of Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh’s similar stay-or-go decision on his own choice: “Obviously, it will be a factor.” But Luck wouldn’t rule out staying at Stanford even if Harbaugh leaves for a college or NFL job.

Mostly, though, Luck sounded focused on Virginia Tech. He seemed totally unaware that New Year’s Eve is tonight, for instance – or that the fervent wish of many Panther fans as the New Year approaches is that they will get Luck-y in 2011.

My extensive story on Luck, his background and his upcoming decision will appear in Sunday’s Observer and online.

Stanford source: Luck leaning toward staying

A Stanford source told me today: "If Andrew Luck had to make his decision today as to whether he would stay or go to the NFL, he'd say he was staying in school."

The source -- who is heavily involved with the Stanford football program and sees Luck every day -- said that statement doesn't mean that Luck has ruled out declaring himself eligible for the 2011 NFL draft. But the source said he "knew" Luck was leaning toward staying at this moment, as the redshirt sophomore quarterback prepares for Monday's Orange Bowl showdown with Virginia Tech.

"A lot can happen between now and Jan.15th," said the source, referring to the date underclassmen must declare themselves eligible. "There will be a lot of conversations still to come. And whenever he goes pro, he will be a fantastic NFL quarterback. But this is a kid who truly enjoys college."

The source continued: "For a lot of guys who declare early, it's partly because the schoolwork is such a grind for them. It's not that way for Andrew."

Luck, a co-valedictorian of his high school class in Houston, Texas, has a grade-point average of over 3.0 at Stanford while majoring in architectural design.

Of course, you could argue that anyone involved with Stanford has such a vested interest in Luck staying that they may see what they want to see, not what is ultimately there. Luck has made no indication of his future plans here in Miami/Ft. Lauderdale and is not available to the media today. Luck will have a press conference Friday that I will cover and post something about by Friday no later than 11:30 a.m.

I'm in south Florida covering the Orange Bowl and Luck this week for The Charlotte Observer and will update this blog every day with news about Luck, Virginia Tech and whatever else is interesting through next Tuesday.

My first story for the newspaper about this Orange Bowl will appear Friday. My extensive story on Luck (who would likely be the Carolina Panthers' choice with the No.1 draft pick if he comes out early) will appear in Sunday's Charlotte Observer and online.

My Andrew Luck watch // Orange Bowl coverage has begun

Hello, everyone...

I'm in the Fort Lauderdale/Miami area, where I'll be through Tuesday, reporting on one of the most fascinating college bowls of the season for The Charlotte Observer.

The Orange Bowl will feature Stanford vs. ACC champ Virginia Tech, which is a fine game in any case, but has the added bonus of featuring Stanford QB Andrew Luck.

Luck, for the uninitiated, is likely the No.1 draft pick of 2011 -- if he decides to come out early. The Panthers hold that No.1 pick.

As a redshirt sophomore, Luck will need to make that decision by Jan.15th. He's coached by another hot commodity in Jim Harbaugh, who has been rumored to be headed to Michigan or to one of several soon-to-be-open NFL coaching jobs, including the Panthers' post.

First of all, though, this game has to happen. Virginia Tech has won 11 straight games, whipped Florida State in the ACC title game in Charlotte and will be a formidable foe.

Stanford and Virginia Tech are both in south Florida now and practiced Wednesday. Luck and Harbaugh both talked briefly after practice and did a nice job of not saying much.

Harbaugh, when asked about trying to minimize the distractions surrounding speculation that he’ll accept an NFL position, said:

“The only time it gets asked is if I‟m doing a talk-back radio show or talking to the media or the press, but really it's not much of a distraction. When you‟re playing Virginia Tech, that gives you plenty to focus on.”

About advising Luck on his future, Harbaugh said: “I'm just going to tell him, 'Do what's best for your family. Do what's best for yourself.' Andrew's got a great, supportive family. They're very smart and they'll figure what‟s best for Andrew.”

Luck didn't address his upcoming decision after practice but did speak about several topics.

On how the team is progressing thus far:
"We've had two good days of practice so far. Beautiful weather, a beautiful setting, you know, waking up and getting to look out and seeing downtown Miami on your right and the beach on your left. It's very picturesque and we're very excited to be here and we‟re looking forward to a good game with Virginia Tech.”

On approaching this trip as a business trip:
“We'll have fun. We know we'll have fun if we win. If we don't win, this trip will be to no avail, so we‟re taking that approach.”

On dealing with the spotlight:
“I understand that if you're the quarterback of a major university that's 11-1 and going to a BCS bowl there's going to be attention and you're the face of the team in certain areas, but I don't relish it, I don't embrace it. I understand it's part of the job.”

Merry Christmas -- and a story

Jenna Huff (right) helps Deb Guthmann to the finish line at a cross-country meet after Guthmann had torn up her hip shortly before the end of the race. (Photo courtesy of Julia DuChateau)


Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all Charlotte Observer and "Scott Says" readers. I hope you have a wonderful one and I appreciate very much you checking this space occasionally.

I have been working for a couple of weeks on a Christmas Day story that was published today and can also be found here -- on a couple of girls' high-school cross country runners who now share a bond thanks to something terrible and wonderful happening at a meet two months ago.

Phil Hoffman of the Observer staff also put together an excellent video documenting the story, called "A Magic Touch." Hope you enjoy! It was a great pleasure working on this story featuring Deb Guthmannn and Jenna Huff, and I appreciate their help in illuminating the sort of good sportsmanship you just don't see often enough in sports.

Now let's just hope for a White Christmas together, shall we?

5 things I didn't like in Panthers' 27-3 loss to Steelers

Lots not to like two days before Christmas in Pittsburgh, but here are my top 5 (and bear in mind, I wasn't at this game, but was watching from home):

1. First-drive punt. OK, so Carolina actually had a bit of momentum. The Panthers are moving the ball, it's 0-0, and they get to Pittsburgh's 32 on the first drive of the game. It's fourth-and-5. I understand it's too far for a field goal, that you just don't hit 50-yard field goals at Heinz Field that often (3-for-15 on the most recent 15 tries, as a good graphic pointed out on NFL Network).

But how do you not go for it there, John Fox? How do you not try for points, knowing how bad your offense is? Instead, Fox stuck to the conservative tendencies that run so deep in his bloodstream, punting. Carolina couldn't down the ball correctly, so Pittsburgh got it at its own 20 (only a 12-yard gain in field position) -- and broke off a 36-yard run on its first play.

Fox seemed to admit this mistake when he faced the very same situation on the next drive -- and then went for it, down only 3-0. That didn't work, either -- but at least at that point, he was trying. By then, though, the Steelers were rolling, and it was already too late.

2. Joe Theismann. Ohmigosh, I had forgotten what it sounded like to hear Theismann for a full game. Does anyone in any TV booth talk more and say less? I liked Matt Millen -- including his line about Jonathan Stewart ("That's a 100 percent USDA man".) I can't remember a thing Theismann said, except he always seemed to be talking and he usually seemed to be apologizing for Jimmy Clausen.

3. Jimmy Clausen. Speaking of Clausen, how inept was he? He had little help, as usual, but his split-second decisions were awful. He kept holding onto the ball and getting sacked, or checking down and not taking shots downfield, or taking an occasional shot but overthrowing it. As I've written before, he simply is not the long-term answer here, and the sooner everyone realizes this, the better.

4. Panthers' pass defense. Ben Roethlisberger had 259 yards passing -- in the first half! He shredded Carolina's defense, most beautifully on that pass to the slot receiver when he caught Carolina in an ill-timed safety blitz for a TD. The Panthers' only good pass defense came when Charles Johnson -- definitely the defensive MVP of this team -- sacked or harassed Big Ben. Otherwise, the ball was going to be complete.

5. Steve Smith. The Panthers actually did try to get him the ball in this game. Smith dropped one 20-yard pass (which would have been called back by an unrelated penalty anyway), caught a couple of short ones and had yet another game without a TD or anything close to it. It's become routine by now.

My pick for Steelers-Panthers (and Sir Purr's punt return)

Pittsburgh and Carolina play so rarely in the regular season that the only game I really remember between the two games came in that starry year of 1996, when everything seemed new and possible for Carolina.

Remember that one? Kordell Stewart went 80 yards for a touchdown. Sir Purr dove into the end zone when a punt was still live and jumped on the ball. ESPN later replayed that leap and flashed a graphic that read: Sir Purr. Punt Returns: One. Yards: Zero.

Ultimately, a playoff-bound Carolina team would edge Pittsburgh, 18-14, at home when safety Chad Cota intercepted Stewart. I must have heard Bill Rosinski's call of that play 100 times: "Stewart back to throw, fires in the end zone. What is it? What is it? INTERCEPTED! The Panthers have it! The Panthers have it!"

Tonight won't be nearly as exciting, I'm afraid. The talent level will be too great for the Panthers to make up. I'm 11-3 picking Panther games this season -- I chose Carolina to beat Arizona last week. But this one won't turn out so nicely.

My prediction: Pittsburgh 30, Carolina 10

When you hire Brown, you know this day is coming

Larry "Next Town" Brown has never been one to stay in one place. So whether this sudden resignation from the Charlotte Bobcats was totally his idea -- and it's very hard to believe that it was -- you had to figure this day was coming.

Brown, 70, has now coached nearly a third of the NBA's 30 teams. His resume is longer than "Of Mice and Men." He's a hall of fame basketball coach and a delight to talk with for writers like me.

But he's also inherently restless -- a perfectionist who eventually wears out his employers and his players, or else vice versa. And Brown's deep insecurities always make him a threat to bolt.

As Richard Vinroot, Charlotte's former mayor and Brown's former roommate at UNC-Chapel Hill, told me about Brown long before he ever was hired in Charlotte (but shortly after things wore out in Detroit, even though Brown had gotten to two straight NBA Finals there and won one of them): "For him, life is either perfect, or he's outta there."

Life certainly wasn't perfect lately for the 9-19 Bobcats, who have not only been losing games but have been losing them by 20 or 30 points. Team owner Michael Jordan obviously was more than miffed at this development -- as majority owner, he now has a lot more skin in this game than he used to.

To be fair, this wasn't all Brown's fault (and I'd wager him resigning it wasn't completely his decision). This team is worse, talent-wise, than last season's. Brown has less to work with, but he was also getting less out of what he has.

It's not just Larry's fault, but you can't trade all the players (much as Brown and Jordan probably would like to on some days). So instead, the coach is gone -- which of course is Jordan's prerogative, but should be explained in more concrete terms by the Bobcats to their fans.

What comes next? In the short term, it's Paul Silas. The Bobcats could hardly do better for an interim coach that they announced only about three hours after announcing Brown was stepping down. Silas is a fine communicator, well-respected everywhere and happens to live in the Charlotte area.

Still, this has been an earthquake of a day in Bobcat-land -- a day that you know must come when you hire Larry Brown, but still one that will leave tremors and aftershocks for months.

5 things I liked about Panthers' win

It seems like it's been forever since I've written a "5 things I liked" blog after a Panther win. Those seven straight "5 things I didn't like" blog after Panther losses were getting a little old, so let's get started:

5 things I liked about Carolina's 19-12 win over Arizona Sunday:

1) Jonathan Stewart and the offensive line. "Stewie" went for 137 yards, pounding the ball again and again and starting the game with a flourish with a 35-yard run that set the tone.

2) It was a "guilt-free" win. Thanks to Cincinnati's 19-17 win over Cleveland, the Panthers (2-12) are still a game worse than every other competitor in the race for the No.1 draft pick. So enjoy this one, Panther fans -- there are really no negative repercussions to it.

3) Jordan Senn. The special-teams standout recovered not one but two attempted onside kicks Sunday -- this after giving an impassioned speech to the team Saturday night.

4) Jimmy Clausen. I've been critical of Clausen numerous times, and I still don't think he's the long-term answer for Carolina, but let's give credit where it is due. Clausen played error-free football Sunday, threw a TD pass to Jeff King (his first since Week 4) and had a QB rating of 107.6.

5) John Fox. What a nice note to go out on at home for the Panthers' head coach of the past nine years. Although he won't coach in this stadium again -- not for the Panthers, that is -- he won his final game here playing his kind of football and also guaranteed a record above .500 for his Panthers' career.

Carolina beats Arizona 19-12 for 2nd win of season

Carolina won its second game of the season Sunday in what should be John Fox's final home game as the Panthers' head coach, defeating Arizona 19-12 in the most complete game the Panthers have played all season.

Fox went out with a flourish as the Panthers won the game the way they long did under the coach -- with a strong running game, defense and special teams. That combo was spiced with a few good passing plays and a turnover-free effort from rookie quarterback Jimmy Clausen, and that was enough to win even though Arizona (4-10) scored nine fourth-quarter points to make it interesting. Carolina broke a seven-game losing streak with the victory.

The Panthers (2-12) remain in the No.1 spot for the 2011 draft since Cincinnati (3-11) edged Cleveland, 19-17. So this was a true guilt-free win for Carolina.

Panther running back Jonathan Stewart keyed the offense with 137 yards rushing. Clausen had an error-free day, going 13-for-19 for 141 yards and one touchdown -- a 16-yarder to Jeff King.

The Panthers got four field goals from John Kasay for the rest of their points. Arizona scored on a fourth-quarter TD (missing the two-point conversion) and two field goals by Jay Feely.

Feely also missed on two onside-kick attempts during the game -- the second, with 0:54 left, was recovered by Carolina's Jordan Senn for the second straight time, cinched the Panthers' win. Senn then gave Fox a hug and also the ball he recovered as Fox smiled broadly.

Arizona closes within 19-9 with 5:41 to go

Arizona got its first TD of the game with 5:41 left in the fourth quarter, but then failed on a two-point conversion. That leaves Carolina ahead, 19-9 -- a two-score margin that should be secure as long as the Panthers don't turn the ball over again.

Carolina was rolling inside the Arizona 30, ahead 19-3, when Jonathan Stewart lost a fumble. That led to Arizona's first TD scoring drive, set up by a long pass from John Skelton to Steve Breaston.

Breaston then scored the TD in a strange way -- Skelton completed a short pass, which was fumbled into the end zone, which Breaston pounced on.

The Cardinals then tried to fool Carolina on the two-point conversion attempt, putting three receivers wide and then running up the middle. Tyler Brayton stuffed Tim Hightower about a yard short, keeping Carolina ahead by 10.

Kasay's 4th field goal pushes Carolina to 19-3 lead

John Kasay's fourth field goal -- a 43-yarder -- just gave the Panthers a 19-3 lead with the third quarter at an end. Unless Arizona can score a couple of touchdowns and two-point conversions in the fourth quarter, Carolina (1-12) is on its way to its second win of the season.

Kasay is 4-for-4 today on field goals. That drive would never have happened except the Cardinals -- after forcing a Carolina punt -- roughed punter Jason Baker and gave Carolina a new set of downs starting at the Arizona 35.

For those curious about how this would affect the Panthers' draft status -- for now, they have the No.1 pick in the 2011 draft -- so far it won't. Cincinnati (2-11) is beating Cleveland by nine points at the moment, so this could be a guilt-free win.

Knowing the 2010 Panthers, though, there may be one more surprise in store before this day is over.

Carolina extends lead to 16-3 on Kasay's 3rd FG

Carolina has extended its lead to 16-3 with a field goal early in the third quarter, helped by an Arizona onside kick to open the second half that went awry.

Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt called for his kicker, Jay Feely, to try an onside kick down 13-3 at halftime. But Feely hit it poorly, knocking it only 7 yards instead of the required 10.

Carolina's Jordan Senn recovered at the Arizona 37. The Panthers moved to a third-and-4 from the Arizona 6, where Jimmy Clausen tried to throw a fade pass to Steve Smith but had it batted away. Kasay then came on to kick his third short field goal of the game.

Carolina leads 13-3 at halftime

Arizona is finally on the board at Bank of America Stadium with a field goal, but Carolina still leads, 13-3, at halftime.

Arizona went 46 yards in 12 plays to get to the Panther 5 before Tyler Brayton knocked away a third-down pass from rookie John Skelton, who has so far been outplayed today by Carolina's Jimmy Clausen. Jay Feely's 25-yard field goal cut the Panthers lead to 10.

Carolina then ran out the clock to go into halftime with a 10-point lead. Clausen is 6-for-10 for 87 yards and a touchdown. Jonathan Stewart has rushed for about 80 yards at halftime.

Panthers take 13-0 lead on King TD

The Panthers have taken a 13-0 lead midway through the second quarter on a 16-yard TD pass from Jimmy Clausen to tight end Jeff King. The play was set up by Sherrod Martin's interception return to the Arizona 16 of a terrible pass by Arizona rookie QB John Skelton.

Carolina then took only one play to score, as a fake to Jonathan Stewart (who has already rushed for more than 70 yards) totally fooled the Arizona defense. King ran into the end zone, spiked the ball between his legs and then looked like he was surfing.

It was Clausen's second TD pass of his career and his first since Oct.3rd.

Carolina ups lead to 6-0 at end of 1st quarter

The Panthers have extended their lead to 6-0 with 14 seconds left in the first quarter -- John Kasay hit his second field goal of the game, this one a 29-yarder.

It was another impressive drive for Carolina -- 14 plays and 80 yards, starting from its own 9-yard line. The biggest play was a 29-yard strike from Jimmy Clausen down the sideline to David Gettis, who fought off defensive holding to make an acrobatic catch. Jonathan Stewart also had several good runs.

On third-and-12 from the Arizona 14, the Panthers ran a draw to Stewart that didn't work. This brought a gush of boos from the stands, which are about half full at this point.

Still, Carolina leads 6-0 as the first quarter comes to a conclusion. Arizona has yet to offer any sort of scoring threat.

Carolina takes early 3-0 lead on Arizona

The Panthers started Sunday's final home game of the season nicely, taking a 3-0 lead on a 28-yard field goal by John Kasay less than five minutes into the game.

Carolina's defense started with a 3-and-out on Arizona. Following came a punt, and Captain Munnerlyn ran it back 71 yards inside the Arizona 20 -- only to have that return nullified by an illegal block on Greg Hardy.

It didn't take Carolina long to get back there, however -- Jonathan Stewart broke a 35-yard run on the Panthers' first offensive play and then Jimmy Clausen hit a short pass that Brandon LaFell turned into a 20-yard gain.

The drive sputtered, however, when Clausen put a third-down pass that could have been a touchdown way too low for Mike Goodson. Kasay's field goal made it 3-0, Carolina, with 10:22 left in the first quarter.

Charlotte's amazing upset will make some believers

This is why I never bet on sports events.

How in the world, I would have asked you before Friday night, could the Charlotte 49ers ever hope to beat Tennessee?

The 49ers’ roster was severely depleted due to injuries and new coach Alan Major’s dismissal of Shamari Spears, the team’s best and most problem-plagued big man.

I watched the 49ers get absolutely hammered in the second half at Davidson last week, losing by 14 to the Wildcats.

Tennessee, meanwhile, was ranked No.7 and coming off an upset loss to Oakland. Surely the Volunteers would be primed and ready for this one.

No, they weren’t, and stop calling me Shirley.

The 49ers, fittingly, scored 49 points. That was just enough to beat the Vols by one, 49-48, Friday in a game I didn’t attend but wish I had.

Charlotte (5-6) totally outplayed a wilting Tennessee squad down the stretch, paced by playmaking guards Jamar Briscoe and Derrio Green. And Major totally outcoached Tennessee loudmouth Bruce Pearl, keeping the game at exactly the languid pace the 49ers needed to thrive.

The win came at the Charlotte Bobcats’ home arena, where there hasn’t been much excitement this season given the Bobcats’ 9-17 start.

But on this nutty night, some Charlotte fans – 49ers, not Bobcats – got to storm the court.

This was the first signature victory of Major’s very first season at Charlotte, one that the coach no doubt will remember 30 years from now.

It’s the sort of win that can start to make believers of a lot of people – including me.

I'm picking Panthers Sunday

Some notes about Sunday's Arizona-Carolina matchup -- which will be the Panthers' final home game of the season:

-- Who was the most recent quarterback to throw five interceptions in this series?
If you said Jake Delhomme, you’d be wrong. Yes, Jake did exactly that in the infamous playoff game Jan.10, 2009. But it was Kurt Warner who unraveled in November 2009 in the Panthers’ 34-21 win in Arizona, throwing five picks.

-- These two teams’ troubles at quarterback have been close to mirror-image this season, too. You know the Panthers’ issues. The Cardinals, meanwhile, starting in August have gone from Matt Leinart to Derek Anderson to rookie Max Hall, back to Anderson and now to rookie John Skelton.

-- With two rookies scheduled to start at quarterback Sunday – Skelton for Arizona and Jimmy Clausen for Carolina – let’s just say that the blitz will be a well-used weapon. Skelton won his first start last week with the Cardinals, even though he completed only 15 of 37 passes.

-- In the awful NFC West, the Cardinals are only 4-9, sit in the division cellar and still aren’t eliminated from the “race” to win the division. They are just two games behind co-leaders St. Louis and Seattle, who are both 6-7. Somebody from the West is going to end up with a first-round home playoff game, which is just plain wrong.

-- The Panthers rushed the ball very well at Arizona last season and will try to do exactly the same thing Sunday. It has been enlightening to see Mike Goodson become such a big part of the offense in DeAngelo Williams’ absence.

-- I’m 10-3 picking Panthers’ games this season. I’ve picked them to lose so many times in a row I’ve lost count, but I’m thinking they will do just enough Sunday behind their revived running game to possibly mess up getting the No.1 draft pick in 2011. Wouldn't that be sort of typical?

My pick: Carolina 17, Arizona 16.

A hard time to be a fan in Charlotte

I wrote my column for Thursday's newspaper and online here on how these are the sorts of times that try a pro sports fan's soul in Charlotte.

That's not to say there's nothing to cheer for in Charlotte and the surrounding areas. Your local high school or middle school team may be having a great year in something. You might be a Duke fan, in which case you have to be ecstatic. You might enjoy going to Checkers games. You might be the parent of a youth league football team that just won a national championship in its division.

But, more than likely, you are also a Panther fan at some level if you live in our area.

The NFL is easily the No.1 spectator sport in America, and Panther games still easily get far more viewers than the next 2-3 sports combined.

So there is something of a pall cast upon a city when a team goes 1-12 like Carolina has this year -- at least I feel one. Of course, I'm in that business. I know there are many more important things in life, but people like to talk about the weather and about football this time of year, and both of them have been pretty darn bad lately.

Clausen should continue to start -- for 3 more games only

My column today on Jimmy Clausen and how unfit he is to be the Panthers' long-term quarterback has drawn, at last count, 225 comments, which isn't the most a story of mine has ever gotten but has to be in my personal top 10 all-time.

I've also gotten some e-mails asking questions about the column, and I'll respond to 3 of them here:

Q: Are you saying Clausen shouldn't be a Panther at all in 2011?
A: No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying he should be a backup. I think he could do that job adequately, but I think we've seen enough now to know he will never be an elite NFL starter and possibly never an adequate one, either. Certainly, he is pretty terrible right now.

Q: Should the Panthers start Brian St. Pierre now? Or Armanti Edwards?
A: No and no. I agree with John Fox, who says he doesn't anticipate a change at this point.
BSP certainly isn't the long-term guy here -- might as well give Clausen the work, because he needs all the reps he can get. And Edwards? I'd like to see him with 4-8 plays in the shotgun "Mountaineer" formation next week, absolutely, but he is ill-equipped to be an NFL starter at this point because he has been playing WR most of the year.

Q: What about Cam Newton? Shouldn't the Panthers draft him if Andrew Luck decides to return to Stanford for his junior year (but Newton, a junior, declares early as expected)?
A: I don't see why not. As I wrote today, I think the Panthers have to take a QB with their first pick, because that's the NFL's most important position (and it's not close), and they don't have their QB of the future on the roster right now.

5 things I didn't like in Atlanta's 31-10 win over Panthers

Time for the traditional "5 things I didn't like" blog. Don't know if yall even remember, but I do actually write a "5 things I did like" blog whenever the Panthers win -- that just hasn't come up for awhile.

So on with the negativity for these 1-12 Panthers, who thankfully have only three more games to go:

1. Jimmy Clausen. The Panthers' overmatched rookie quarterback has now thrown 193 passes in a row without throwing a TD pass. He threw 24 passes Sunday and only got 107 yards out of them. He is 0-7 as a starter and still hasn't had a 200-yard passing game. Clausen will be the subject of my column for Monday's newspaper, and let's just say it's not going to be pretty. (UPDATE: here's the column).

2. The weather in Charlotte. In a word, nasty. Panther coach John Fox said that -- given the cold drizzle and the fact his team was 1-11 entering Sunday -- he couldn't blame the fans for not showing up. And they didn't. (The sun did come out for awhile in the second half, though).
The percentage of empty seats -- easily more than half were empty -- reminded me of a Monday night Bobcats-Timberwolves game at Time Warner Cable Arena.

3. The first quarter. Carolina was outgained 133-6, outscored 14-0 and out-first downed (I know, it's not a word) 7-0 in the first 15 minutes. Not much of a way to reward those loyal fans who did show up.

4. The pass blocking. Clausen was sacked five times as Atlanta blitzed often to take advantage of the rookie's inability to make good decisions consistently.

5. The "no lateral." OK, it's a little thing. Richard Marshall made a nice play on the last play of the first half, intercepting Atlanta QB Matt Ryan with a lot of room in front of him (but also 5-6 potential tacklers).
Marshall had to score to make the play really count, though. He was hemmed in at the 40, which would have been just the right time to try one of those risky laterals so many defensive players love to try in practice. Instead, Marshall just went down, taking one of Carolina's few scoring chances with him.

Panthers lose 31-10 to Atlanta

Carolina dropped to 1-12 Sunday with a 31-10 loss to Atlanta Sunday at Bank of America Stadium in what was easily the most poorly-attended home game of the year in Charlotte.

I'd estimate the actual turnstile count Sunday was around 25,000, which left almost 50,000 empty seats on a day where the weather forecast was bad, it drizzled early and was cold the whole time.

Atlanta jumped to a quick 14-0 lead in the first 10 minutes of the game and the Falcons (11-2) were never seriously threatened after that. By the end of the game, there might have been 1,000 people left.

Michael Turner scored three touchdowns for Atlanta. Matt Ryan threw for 227 yards for the Falcons and controlled the game most of the time he was on the field.

On the positive side: The Panthers are still in line for the No.1 draft pick in the 2011 draft.

The Panthers were able to rush the ball very successfully Sunday -- for more than 200 yards all told -- but as usual couldn't throw it to save their lives. Jimmy Clausen barely managed to throw for over 100 yards, getting just enough on the last play of the game.

Atlanta goes ahead 31-10 on Turner's third TD

The Falcons just took their biggest lead of this game, going ahead 31-10 on Michael Turner's third TD following a Jimmy Clausen interception.

Clausen threw a rare ball down the middle on the Panthers' previous possession, and it was tipped, picked off and returned to the Carolina 16. It took Atlanta four plays to score from there, with Turner scoring standing up and drawing many boos from the few fans left in the stadium.

Kasay connects: Atlanta still up 24-10 in 4th

The Panthers have gotten a 36-yard field goal from John Kasay, cutting Atlanta's lead to 24-10 with 9:44 left in the fourth quarter.

The Panthers got just inside the Atlanta 20 -- again with the run, as Jonathan Stewart and Mike Goodson have now combined for more than 200 rushing yards -- before stalling when Jimmy Clausen tried to hit Gary Barnidge ("Gary Barnidge?!" TV analyst John Lynch said disbelievingly) on third-and-6.

The Panthers did have a couple of bright moments on the previous defensive possession, too, sacking Matt Ryan on two straight plays. There are maybe 10,000 fans left in the stadium, but there probably weren't more than 25,000 to begin with.

Atlanta scores, leads 24-7 in third quarter

The Falcons just squashed any real hopes of a Carolina comeback, scoring on a 3-yard run by Michael Turner to extend its lead to 24-7 with 4:41 left in the third quarter.

The Panthers, down 17-7, had gotten the ball to the Atlanta 38 after Jonathan Stewart (11 carries, 114 yards so far) ripped off a 42-yard run. But then Steve Smith dropped a low throw from Jimmy Clausen that could have gotten a first down. Coach John Fox elected to go for it on fourth-and-4 from the Falcons 38 -- it would have been a 56-yard field goal for John Kasay -- and Clausen took a sack for a loss of 13.

That gave Atlanta great field position, and the Falcons only needed 5 plays to traverse 49 yards for the TD -- three of them passes to Pro Bowl wide receiver Roddy White.

Panthers cut lead to 17-7

Just after the Panthers' offense had had one of the worst halves in franchise history, it started the second half with a big bang.

The Panthers went 81 yards in five plays on their opening drive of the second half, scoring on Mike Goodson's 13-yard TD run and slicing Atlanta's lead to 17-7.

The entire drive was on the ground and was punctuated by Jonathan Stewart's 48-yard run to the Tampa Bay 21 (there was great blocking on the play). Before that was a 12-yard Steve Smith reverse -- Smith's first touch of the day -- and after that there were two Goodson carries, for eight yards and then the TD.

With just over 10 minutes left in the third quarter, Carolina is within 10.

Falcons extend lead to 17-0 at halftime

Atlanta just ground out one of those long marches it has made a living on this season, taking 18 plays and 8:38 off the clock before scoring on a 39-yard field goal from Matt Bryant to make it 17-0 with 2:34 left in the second quarter.

The Panthers did stop the Falcons, finally, thanks to Jon Beason's deflection of a pass and sure tackle on successive plays. But Atlanta cashed in anyway on Bryant's field goal, making it a three-possession game for the Panthers.

Carolina got the ball back, couldn't move it (of course) and punted. Matt Ryan made a rare bad throw on the last play of the first half, which was intercepted by Richard Marshall, and the Falcons went into the half ahead 17-0.

A couple of halftime stats for you: the Panthers have two first downs so far (Atlanta has 13). Quarterback Jimmy Clausen is 3-for-5 for 14 yards and has been sacked four times for minus-19, so the Panthers actually have lost five yards passing so far.

Atlanta has outgained Carolina, 202-33, at halftime.

Atlanta up 14-0 in first quarter

The Falcons have now scored on each of their first two possessions, and they lead 14-0 after a one-yard Michael Turner plunge with 6:51 still left in the first quarter.

Jimmy Clausen has yet to throw a pass for Carolina -- which fumbled on its first offensive play and went 3-and-out on its second series -- and the Falcons already have what should be an insurmountable lead against the NFL's worst offense.

The Falcons' key play was a third-down conversion from Matt Ryan to Harry Douglas that went for 46 yards as Douglas beat rookie Robert McClain down the sideline (but not my much; Ryan's throw was perfect).

After that, it took Atlanta three runs from the 9-yard line to score. Turner fumbled on one and Jordan Senn recovered, but Turner was ruled down on the field before the fumble and, after a John Fox challenge, the call was upheld.

Atlanta 7-0 after 85 seconds

The Carolina Panthers couldn't have started much worse on a dreary day at Bank of America Stadium.

Carolina got the ball first and -- on its first play from scrimmage -- Jonathan Stewart fumbled the ball away.

Atlanta took only 3 plays to score from the Panther 29 after that -- a 9-yard pass, a 16-yard run from Michael Turner and a 4-yard pass from Matt Ryan to Tony Gonzalez for the score.

After 85 seconds, the Panthers were down, 7-0.

At least not too many people saw it in person -- the stands look to be about 1/3 full.

Panthers-Falcons notes and prediction

Some thoughts on Sunday’s matchup:

-- The 10-2 Falcons have to be salivating at the idea of facing 1-11 Carolina twice in the season’s final four weeks. They will play again in the Georgia Dome Jan.2, which will be the last game that coach John Fox and most or all of his staff will be employed by the Panthers.

-- The two teams really couldn’t be more opposite. Atlanta is tied with New England for the best record in the NFL. Carolina has the worst. The Falcons have won six straight. Carolina has lost six straight.

-- Atlanta isn’t blowing people out like, say, New England. The Falcons have won seven games in the fourth quarter or overtime this season. And they are only one game up on New Orleans (9-3) in the NFC South race, however, meaning the Falcons’ playoff position could be almost anywhere. Atlanta would be No.1 if the season ended today, but could drop all the way to No.5 if the Saints overtake them. So this game means a lot to Atlanta – and Jan. 2nd likely will, too.

-- The most damning statistic about quarterback Jimmy Clausen right now is that he’s thrown more touchdown passes to the other team (two) than to his team (one). Clausen is not throwing enormous numbers of interceptions – and he’s got to lead the league in throwing the ball away – but the ones he does throw seem extremely costly.

-- Watch Atlanta on third down Sunday to see an offense -- and a quarterback in Matt Ryan -- that knows what it’s doing on football’s most important snap. The Falcons lead the NFL in third-down conversions – they are successful 48.1 percent of the time. Carolina gets third down right 32.4 percent of the time (30th in the NFL)

-- I’m 9-3 picking Panther outcomes this season. This one would seem to be almost too easy, but Carolina actually plays the Falcons tough most of the time and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the game stay tight for a half. Bottom line, though: Falcons 24, Carolina 10.

An excerpt from my live chat

Here's an excerpt from my live chat today with Observer readers, where I answer questions for an hour. Tom Sorensen or I usually do this on Tuesdays from noon to 1 p.m., although today I did it on Thursday. The whole transcript can be found (for now anyway) at the following link:

Q: Would you rather spend big money on a big name coach for the Panthers or go under the radar with a previously unmentioned coordinator and use that cash to load up on free agents? Or will Jerry just go cheap and keep the money for himself?

A: The coach and the quarterback are the two most important components on an NFL team. So I think you get the right guy at the top, whatever that takes. Do that first. Then hit a home run in 2011 draft. And then, suddenly, the players who look so bad this year may not look so bad anymore.

Q: Scott, what do you make of Coach Fox's comment of "I have no idea what you are talking about" in regards to JR's letter to the PSL holders yesterday. Is the lack of communication and their relationship really THAT bad at this point?

A: I thought it was great evidence of the disconnect between Fox and Richardson -- amazing, really, that a letter would go out to 60,000 PSL holders and Fox would never know that it happened.

Q: Scott, I just saw an NBA mock draft for 2011 showing Harrison Barnes the #2 overall pick, is he really considered to go that high?

A: Ridiculous. Just like putting Barnes on the first-team preseason All-American team was ridiculous. Does a lot of things pretty well, but does nothing unbelievably well at this point. If anyone took Barnes at No.2 right now, that'd be a mistake.

Q: Scott, why does your partner Tom [Sorensen] seem to always disagree with the popular opinion of any sporting issue in Charlotte....the most recent example being his article on the Hornets naming issue this morning.

A: Tom likes to be a contrarian. It is his nature and we love him for it. For instance, he
predicted the Panthers would go 9-7 this season in the newspaper.

Richardson's letter (with commentary)

For many months, Panthers owner Jerry Richardson has not communicated to the team’s fans at all, except apparently through the occasional random phone call placed to a fan who wrote a letter of complaint and e-mailed it to the Panthers’ website.

That has now changed. Richardson has written a letter that has been sent to all permanent-seat license owners. (UPDATE: And, on Wednesday, coach John Fox said he had no idea what a reporter was talking about when asked about the letter. Fox never saw it before it went out -- another sign of the disconnect between owner and coach).

Although this certainly isn’t a substitute for actually answering questions about the team, it’s a good first step for Richardson. I thought the letter was too vague in parts but quite well done in others.

Here, I have put the contents of Richardson’s letter in my blog and have offered my comments on it in parentheses. Again, Richardson’s letter is restated in full here, but everything in parentheses and italics is what I’m thinking as I’m reading it. I’m not trying to be snarky here, just truthful.

So below you'll find a copy of Richardson's letter to PSL holders. If you’d prefer to read it without my commentary -- and I certainly understand some folks would rather do that -- click on the “Inside the Panthers” blog.

From Jerry Richardson to PSL holders:

"I know how difficult the season has been for you. As the person ultimately responsible for putting a team on the field, I take full responsibility for our shortfalls (Nicely done – no excuses, just taking the blame). It is agonizing that we have not performed at the level we had planned for and expected (agonizing is a strong word, but Richardson hates losing enough I believe that it’s true).

"When the season began, we believed there was every opportunity for success. (Really? Every opportunity? Oh, c’mon now). Many of the players were returning from a team that had finished last year very strong (and many more weren’t, including Jake Delhomme, Julius Peppers, Chris Harris, Brad Hoover and so on). The motivation for this approach was both performance-based and a commitment to the future. Obviously we have fallen short (by only a couple of thousand miles), but our faith and commitment are still the same.

"Going forward, our plan of attack is to build through the draft while retaining our core players (good to restate this). We have one of the youngest teams in the League, and a number of those younger players have shown genuine promise in this otherwise disappointing season (true). We won't give up on them. We also have a solid nucleus of veterans that we will seek to keep intact.

"I want all of you to know that we plan to look at every aspect of our organization (this is the only place where Richardson hints that he’ll have a new coach in 2011). What we do in the future will entirely be geared toward putting the best possible team on the field. I am committed to fielding a winning team, and I'm willing to invest the resources necessary to make it happen (this needed to be said, as many fans believe Richardson is doing this year on the cheap).

"Allow me to raise another personal issue. Much has been made of my reluctance to address the play of the team in the media. Throughout the history of the franchise, I have rarely done in-season interviews (this is true, but it’s also true that Richardson used to do offseason interviews with some regularity, and that hasn’t happened for a long time, to the detriment of many, including, of course, those of us like me who are in the media business).

"It's just not my style. In my opinion, comments from ownership during the season are a distraction, and I do not want my comments to interfere in any way with the performance on the field (but at 1-11, how could it get worse? And you answer questions from individual fans frequently. But, I digress).

"This year is further complicated with the uncertainty regarding Collective Bargaining Agreement. (Richardson plays a huge role for the owners in this CBA and is considered a "hard-line" owner). Let me be clear: A successful CBA is critical in sustaining the competitive balance of the NFL. We're all in this together, and what is good for football is good for the continued success of each and every team. It's important for us to reach an agreement that benefits the fans, players, and teams (and, of course, its owners). I want the players paid fairly, and I want us to play winning and exciting football (My contention is still that there will be a lockout but ultimately won’t be any regular-season games missed in 2011, but I’ve been wrong before).

"I understand that in a season like this, words can sound hollow (a nice admission here), but, as PSL Owners, you have my commitment to provide you a team that will make you proud (well-done here as well – and it sure better be true). With three NFC championship game appearances, we have come close. I can assure you we will be aggressive in getting there again (no Super-Bowl-in-10-year prediction this time from Richardson -- smart).

"Thank you for your patience and support in a very challenging time."

Respectfully,
Jerry Richardson

On Dandy Don and the Panthers

4 notes on a cold Tuesday:

1) Like many NFL fans, I used to watch Dandy Don Meredith and Howard Cosell go at it on "Monday Night Football" and revel in their rivalry. It was a rite of passage for me when I was finally old enough to stay up late enough to hear Meredith sing, "Turn out the lights, the party's over" when the game's outcome was decided. Meredith was a former NFL star who didn't take the game that seriously -- he was playing a Texas cornpone role in those broadcasts and was bright enough, and funny enough, to pull it off for years. When you see those studio analysts yakking it up every Sunday -- well, they all owe a debt to Dandy Don.

"MNF" did a nice tribute to Meredith at halftime last night -- the most touching part being when Frank Gifford, being interviewed live by Mike Tirico, said of Meredith "I loved him like a brother," then got teary-eyed and couldn't go on. RIP Dandy Don, who died Sunday at age 72.

2) My column today on the Panthers is called "To Win or Not to Win" and concerns the Panthers' hunt for the No.1 draft pick in 2011 and how many fans are now hoping they go ahead and finish 1-15 to guarantee it (and, likely, Andrew Luck if he declares early). On his way out the door, wouldn't it be ironic if John Fox messed that up for Carolina?

3) Thanks again for those who turned in fake names for a fake book about the Panthers' 2010 season in a blog post a couple below this one -- I used some of those for comic relief in today's column (right toward the end). I gotta say, you "Scott Says" readers are very creative.

4) I will be doing an online chat this week from noon to 1 p.m. on Thursday, Dec.9th. If you have a question but can't make it during that time, e-mail it to me at sfowler@charlotteobserver.com and I'll try to post it and answer it live, time permitting, during the chat.

5 things I didn't like about Panthers' loss to Seattle

True story. I was at home for this game, watching it on TV with the DVR going. At halftime, with Carolina up 14-3, I fell asleep.
I woke up 45 minutes later, looked bleary-eyed at the TV screen, and figured I must have looked at the score wrong.
Nope. It was 24-14, Seattle, and soon it was going to get worse. So here are five things I didn’t like about Seattle’s 31-14 win over Carolina, in which the Seahawks scored 31 straight points after the Panthers leaped to a 14-0 lead:

1) Jimmy Clausen. Up 14-10, he threw a “pick-six” interception to Seattle’s Lofa Tatupu that changed the game’s tenor completely. It’s exactly the sort of error these 1-11 Panthers can never afford to make but usually do, and everything went downhill from there. Clausen was fine handing off, but when it came time for him to move the team through the air, he couldn’t do it.

2) Jeff Davidson. The Panthers’ deservedly criticized offensive coordinator will get another heaping helping after this one. And what were the Panthers doing throwing on third-and-1 with a 14-10 lead anyway? Jonathan Stewart had been the best player in the game to that point – give him the ball.

3) Seattle's 96-yard drive. Up 14-3, Carolina had pinned Seattle at the 4 after a mishandled kickoff to open the third quarter. And then there went the Seahawks – 96 yards straight down the field, giving themselves hope.

4) The 84-yard punt return. Seattle’s Leon Washington is certainly a dangerous return man, and his burst up the middle set up the Seahawks’ third straight touchdown in the third quarter. But no one on the Panther punt coverage team seemed to even get close to Washington except punter Jason Baker, whose miraculous shoestring tackle inside the 5 only delayed the inevitable.

5) The offensive line. How many times get Clausen get clocked in the second half, or else have to throw the ball away to avoid yet another sack? I lost count, but I did notice that the officials felt so sorry for Clausen they actually tried to help him up a couple of times.

Note: For those who entered my "Write a Fake Book Title for the Panthers' 2010 Season" contest over the weekend, read the comments of the blog entry below this one if you want some painful laughs (and also the names of the winners).

And the book winners are....

I had a "Free Friday" sort of contest yesterday, in case you missed it. I told people at the bottom of my Panthers-Seahawks prediction blog that, because that was the 1,000th blog post in the 2-plus year history of "Scott Says," I'd give away 5 signed copies of my "Tales from the Carolina Panthers Sideline" book in a random drawing.

You had to e-mail me to have a shot at winning, and you only had until 6 p.m. Friday to do it.

Several hundred people did just that. I started off trying to respond to the e-mails individually, thanking everyone for their entry and for reading "Scott Says." After awhile, though, I got overwhelmed and had to write my daily column for Saturday's newspaper (on the ACC title game in town Saturday), so I'll thank you again here and apologize for those who didn't receive a personal reply from me.

As for the Panthers book winners, I used a tool from "Random.org" to make sure it was truly random. I got entries from Austria, Canada and probably half the states in the U.S. for the contest, but the winners turned out to be fairly close to home. They were:

Bryan Detwiler (Davidson); Evan Hill (Charlotte); David Kempert (Raleigh); Anne Cathey (Huntersville) and John Dimier (Charlotte).

"Tales from the Carolina Panthers Sideline," incidentally, can still be found in some bookstores, but not too many since it was originally published in 2004 after the Panthers' Super Bowl year. If you're still really wanting it, check your local library and/or my personal website at http://www.scottfowlersports.com/, where it's available cheaply and where you can also see a selection of my personal favorite Charlotte Observer stories over the past decade or so.

This Panther contest made me think of one other thing, though. I'm certainly not going to write a book about the 2010 Panthers and this awful season. But, if I did -- or you did -- what would we call it?

I'm going to give away two more copies of the Panthers book to the folks who submit the best -- i.e., likely the funniest -- title for a proposed book about this 2010 Panthers season.

Rules: Use the blog comments section directly below this post so everyone can enjoy your submission. DO NOT submit more than two proposed titles per person. DO NOT use any obscenities. Other than that, anything goes. You DON'T have to post your full name or address in the comments section -- once I announce the winners, you can contact me with that info.

You have until the 4:15 p.m. Sunday, Dec.5th kickoff between Seattle and Carolina to submit these proposed titles, and I'll announce the winners in my traditional postgame "5 things" blog that will be posted no later than 8:30 p.m. Sunday night.

Again, good luck if you choose to enter, and either way, thanks so much for reading "Scott Says" and The Charlotte Observer!

Jackson's open letter: A good start

I'm quite impressed by Stephen Jackson's open letter to Bobcats fans, which has been zipping around the Internet troday and reads in part:

People do not like to admit they are wrong, but my actions in Milwaukee last week resulted in an ejection and ultimately an NBA suspension for the next game. As a result, I let myself, my teammates and my coaches down, but more importantly, I let our fans down. In my heart, I know I have to adjust my emotions on the floor and I vow to work harder than ever to not put myself or this team in that situation again.

I understand the rules that the NBA has established to govern players’ behavior on the floor and I respect the job the officials have each night. NBA players are bigger, faster and more athletic than ever, so being able to call a perfect game each night and see every foul is tough, and I have to take that into consideration.

(Read the full letter here in Rick Bonnell's always excellent Bobcats blog).

After being around Jackson a good bit, I believe he has the best of intentions. I think he truly wants to "adjust my emotions," as he puts it. He wants to win. He doesn't like to let people down. And this letter is a nice gesture -- many athletes have done a lot worse than this and never apologized for it.

Cynically, I wonder how long it will take for Jackson to get his next technical and/or to berate the next ref who fails to call a foul when he drives to the basket (and he always thinks he gets fouled, on practically every drive).

But I'm willing to give Jackson another chance. I've written many times that he needs to change his attitude and control his temper on the court. Say this for him -- he's obviously trying to do just that.

Panther prediction -- and a giveaway

A few notes in advance of 1-10 Carolina's game against 5-6 Seattle Sunday:

-- It’s going to be weird Sunday not turning on the TV until 4:15 p.m. for a Carolina game. The Panthers are so thoroughly a “Sunday at 1 p.m.” team – the place TV networks love to stash bad teams that don’t draw a big national audience – that this will be their first non-1 p.m. game of the season and comes only because the game is on the West Coast.

-- Five years ago, these two teams met in Seattle in the NFC championship game, with the Seahawks winning easily and advancing to a Super Bowl they would ultimately lose to Pittsburgh. The two teams haven’t played in Seattle since, but they sure have gotten worse.

-- Seattle got creamed in rushing yardage last week, 270-20, in its 42-24 loss to Kansas City. The Panthers’ chance Sunday hinges on the team gaining more rushing yardage than its season high of 151, set last week in Cleveland.

-- Seattle coach Pete Carroll once tried hard to recruit Jimmy Clausen to Southern Cal. Clausen, who grew up in California, chose Notre Dame instead but then never beat the Trojans in his college career. He’d love to get his first NFL win over Carroll Sunday, although the very loud crowd in Seattle won’t be easy on a rookie quarterback.

-- The Panthers actually have a shot in this one, mostly based on their running game. But I’m 8-3 picking Panther outcomes this season, and that’s because I almost always pick them to lose. I’m not going to mess with that formula now. Prediction: Seattle 24, Carolina 16.

-- Note to "Scott Says" readers: This post represents the 1,000th blog post I have filed since the "Scott Says" blog went live in 2008. In honor of that anniversary, I will have a random giveaway of "Tales from the Carolina Panthers Sideline" -- the book I wrote on the Panthers back when they were actually a very good team.

You can only enter by e-mailing your name and address to ScottFowlerBooks@aol.com by 6 p.m. Eastern time on Friday, Dec.3rd (I'm using that e-mail address for this instead of my Observer one due to e-mail space considerations). Please put "Panthers book" in the subject line (although it does not disqualify you if you forget to do that -- it just helps me with my bookkeeping).

Five readers will win a signed copy of the book, and those five will all be notified via e-mail by 1 p.m. Saturday, Dec.4th.

Good luck -- and thanks so much for reading "Scott Says."

Sherrod Martin gets overcharged

Panthers safety Sherrod Martin has been fined $40,000 today for a helmet-to-helmet hit he doled out in Sunday's game against Cleveland at the goal line.

I was in Cleveland, and Martin's hit was definitely illegal (although I don't think he did it on purpose). But the size of the fine is awfully large given that Tennessee's Cortland Finnegan and Houston's Andre Johnson were fined only $25,000 for engaging in a brief but full-scale fight Sunday which included ripping off each others' helmets and Johnson landing three punches to Finnegan's unprotected head.

That's just wrong. If you are going to give Martin a 40K fine -- and I understand he's a repeat offender, as he got fined $5,000 for another illegal hit in Week 1 -- then Finnegan and Johnson should have been suspended for a game apiece and lose the game check that goes along with it.

Martin is appealing the fine, as he should, although the way the NFL is cracking down on helmet-to-helmet hits I doubt that he'll get much mercy from the league. Finnegan and Johnson, though, should consider themselves extremely lucky, because what they did, to me, was worse.

Or, as Martin's Carolina teammate Tyrell Sutton colloquially put it in his Twitter account today: "Crazy tht Sherrod got a 40k fine for a hit n the middle of the game but Andre johnson and cortland finnegan got 25k each for a fite. Bogus"

The downside of Stephen Jackson (and other notes)

3 notes on a Tuesday:

1) If I'm Larry Brown, I'm starting to get borderline furious with Stephen Jackson these days. Jackson has six technicals already this season (tied for the NBA lead) and got tossed out for two straight less than five minutes into a very winnable game at Milwaukee Saturday night. This is the downside of Jackson -- he's a combustible mix of confidence and paranoia. Too confident as in "If I didn't make that, I must have been fouled." Too paranoid, as in "Because of my past history, the refs are out to get me."

UPDATE: Jackson just got suspended by the NBA for Charlotte's Wednesday night game against New Orleans, so the fit he threw in Milwaukee ultimately will cost Charlotte two games (and quite possibly contribute to two losses). Jackson also loses about $100,000 due to the suspension, which is 1/82nd of his $8.4 million salary. Doesn't seem right, does it, that 1/82nd of Jackson's salary is more than most people make in a year, period?

2) I thought this was a funny line from Cleveland Plain Dealer columnist Bud Shaw after Jake Delhomme shakily won his first game as a Brown over the Panthers Sunday: "If Delhomme were your ambulance driver, he would get you to the emergency room. No worries. That wouldn't be the problem. The two collisons and blown tire along the way would."

3) Very glad to see the ACC championship game in Charlotte for the first time this Saturday night, although I'm sorry N.C. State spit the bit last week against Maryland. A Virginia Tech-State matchup would have had more local juice, but nationally I suppose the Va Tech-FSU matchup we now have would likely draw a slightly higher TV rating. And either way, the game's sold out.

5 things I didn't like in Panthers' 24-23 loss to Browns

Very entertaining Panthers game today, for a change. I was in Cleveland watching it, and I enjoyed the back-and-forth of it and the fact that Carolina rushed for a season-high 151 yards and tied its season high for points -- those were good things. But since it was still a 24-23 loss to Cleveland, it's time for the traditional "5 things I didn't like":

1. Going for two (or not). I know it's easy to second-guess now. But even when it was happening early in the third quarter I thought John Fox was making a mistake by not going for two points when Captain Munnerlyn scored on a 37-yard interception return to cut Cleveland's lead to 21-19.
I know the conventional wisdom is to never go for a two-pointer until the fourth quarter, but why should a 1-10 team care about conventional wisdom? The Panthers struggle so hard to score TDs (they have 11 offensive TDs in 11 games). So when you have a chance to tie the game, you must take it instead of kicking an extra point.
If Carolina had made that two-pointer, all John Kasay's 42-yard miss on the last play of the game would have meant was that it was time for overtime.

2. Kasay's kick. I know Cleveland Browns Stadium is a tough place for a kicker, but Kasay had already knocked two through from almost the same distance on the same side of the field. The veteran almost always comes through in those situations -- this time he didn't, ruining an incredible drive for the Panthers in the final minute.

3. David Gettis. The rookie continues to be a feast-or-famine receiver. After an 88-yard TD last week, he didn't catch a single pass Sunday and was never targeted by Clausen. Now Clausen wasn't looking downfield much, but still...

4. Slow defensive starts. Carolina's defense played well in the second half -- actually outscoring the Browns' offense 7-3 in that half. But the first part of the game was awful, as the Panthers allowed three TDs in Cleveland's first four possessions. And Peyton Hillis (194 total yards, 3 TDs) kept simply running over and through Panthers.

5. Penalties. Carolina had 8 for 68, and three of them early gave the Browns third-down conversions just when it seemed like the Panther D had gotten off the field.

Cleveland edges Carolina 24-23 after Kasay miss

CLEVELAND -- In a game much more entertaining than the usual Panthers' 2010 contest but ultimately ending with the same result, Carolina (1-10) has lost its fifth straight game and guaranteed John Fox's first double-digit loss season with the team.

Cleveland (4-7) edged the Panthers, 24-23, after John Kasay missed a field goal on the final play of the game. Kasay's 41-yard field-goal attempt hit the left upright and bounced away, ruining what was about to be a remarkable comeback led by rookie quarterback Jimmy Clausen.

Clausen and the Panthers took over at their own 5 with 59 seconds left and no timeouts and seemed to be going nowhere until Mike Goodson broke free on a short pass and scampered 32 yards to the Carolina 48. Clausen then threw a sideline pass to a well-covered Brandon LaFell, who made a spectacular shoestring grab at the Cleveland 25 and rolled out of bounds with five seconds left. The play was reviewed by the replay booth but the ruling on the field stood.

That brought out Kasay, who had gone 3-for-4 on previous field-goal attempts. He missed and the Cleveland crowd went wild.

Jake Delhomme threw two interceptions for the Browns, one returned for a TD, but also had over 200 yards passing and led the Browns on their winning field-goal drive. Peyton Hillis scored all three of the Browns' TDs on runs of 9, 5 and 6 yards.

Browns go ahead 24-23 on Dawson FG

The Browns have come right back with a 41-yard field goal from Phil Dawson to take a 24-23 lead with 2:59 left in the game after Carolina had taken a brief two-point lead on John Kasay's third field goal.

If this score stands, John Fox's decision not to go for a two-point conversion early in the third quarter after the Panthers pulled within 21-19 on a touchdown could come back to haunt him.

Kasay's 3rd FG gives Carolina 23-21 lead

The Panthers have taken a 23-21 lead with 7:01 left in the game on John Kasay's 43-yard field goal. The Panthers went 51 yards in nine plays, with one big third-down conversion on a screen pass to Dante Rosario and a 31-yard run from Jonathan Stewart providing the bulk of the yardage.

Cleveland, once ahead 21-7 in this game, has not scored in the second half as the Panthers have reeled off 16 straight points. If the Browns are to win, Jake Delhomme will have to lead a fourth-quarter comeback against his former team.

Carolina's defense playing better; Panthers still trail 21-20

The Panthers' defense, after playing terribly for the early part of the game, is now keeping Carolina in it while waiting for at least one more score from the offense.

With fourth-and-1 from the Carolina 25 and 11:40 to go in the game, Cleveland (holding a 21-20 lead) called timeout and then decided to go for it. But the Panthers, who have had trouble all day with Cleveland RB Peyton Hillis (all 3 Cleveland TDs), stopped Hillis outright on the play and took over the ball.

Things had settled down somewhat after Jake Delhomme's two quick interceptions on his first two passes to open the third quarter. After Carolina cut Cleveland's lead to 21-20, both teams muddled around for the rest of the quarter without mounting any serious threats or causing any more big turnovers. Carolina's offense has done very little in the second half, with the Panthers' only points coming on Captain Munnerlyn's 37-yard pickoff return for a TD.

Bad Jake has resurfaced; Panthers close to within a point

Cleveland QB Jake Delhomme came close to a couple of turnovers in the first half against Carolina and never committed any. But he has turned into "Bad Jake" in the first three minutes of the second half -- he has been intercepted twice, and the second was returned by Captain Munnerlyn and run back 37 yards for a touchdown.

Carolina could have gone for 2 and tried to tie the game, but instead had John Kasay kick the extra point, so the Panthers trail, 21-20. The crowd at Cleveland Browns Stadium booed Delhomme after the last interception.

Delhomme also was picked off by LB Jon Beason on the first offensive play of the third quarter, but that didn't cost the Browns any points. Beason returned the ball to the 30, but Carolina couldn't get anything going on offense and then Kasay missed a 46-yard FG.

Kasay's 2nd FG cuts Browns lead to 21-13 at halftime

John Kasay just hit his second FG of the second quarter -- a 42-yarder -- and Carolina is now down 21-13 to the Cleveland Browns.

The FG came mostly courtesy of the Panthers' first good defensive series -- a three-and-out -- and then a 32-yard punt return by Captain Munnerlyn in which he broke several tackles going straight up the middle.

The Panthers then got one first down when Steve Smith made one of those kinds of plays he always used to make -- breaking two tackles and going 18 yards. After that, though, Clausen made a bad throw on third-and-5 from the Cleveland 24 that went incomplete and Carolina had to go for the FG with 0:47 left in the first half.

Cleveland then thought about trying to throw its way downfield in the final minute, but Jake Delhomme had the ball batted out of his hand by Charles Johnson on the first play, and Cleveland averted a real mess when it recovered. After that, the Browns were content to go into halftime with a 21-13 lead.

Panthers cut lead to 21-10 on Kasay FG

John Kasay just hit a 43-yard FG for Carolina, slicing Cleveland's lead to 21-10 with 3:19 left in the first half.

The Panthers had a respectable 49-yard drive to get the field goal, including a wounded-duck Clausen pass to Mike Goodson that didn't look pretty but got 17 yards to convert a third down.

The idea of a touchdown got messed up when Clausen was sacked for a 12-yard loss on a safety blitz.

Browns up 21-7 as Hillis scores 3rd TD

Carolina's defense -- shaky for the last several weeks now -- just allowed its third Peyton Hillis TD, this one from six yards out.

The Browns now lead 21-7 with 9:12 left in the second quarter. Cleveland has scored TDs on three of its four possessions and on the fourth only a fumble inside the Panther 5 prevented more points.

Carolina went 81 yards on its first drive -- one of its most impressive marches of the season -- but hasn't been able to do anything since. Rookie QB Jimmy Clausen has been nearly intercepted a couple of times and has been under heavy pressure in most passing situations.

Also, Carolina started Captain Munnerlyn at cornerback rather than their highest-paid corner, Chris Gamble, who has been playing the "third cornerback" position today.

Browns still up 14-7 as Panthers cause turnover

Just when it looked like Cleveland was going to score a TD for the third straight time, Panthers linebacker Jason Williams stripped the ball away from Cleveland's Evan Moore at the Carolina 3 in the second quarter.

That likely saved a TD, as the Browns were moving again. Williams also recovered the fumble and returned it to the 10, where the Panthers went 3-and-out and had to punt.

Browns lead 14-7

Peyton Hillis just scored his second TD of the game for Cleveland, annd the Browns lead 14-7 with 2:55 still to go in a high-scoring first quarter.

Jake Delhomme ran off the field hugging people after his second straight TD drive -- this one seven plays for 64 yards.

The Panthers defense has now committed three third-down penalties to keep the drive alive -- on Sherrod Martin, Chris Gamble and Charles Johnson, respectively. Martin's was on the first Browns TD drive and the other two were on the second. Gamble was called for illegal holding and Johnson for roughing Delhomme -- if either penalty had not been called, Cleveland would have had to punt.

Instead, Cleveland leads by a TD and the Panthers' defense hasn't stopped Jake and his new team yet.

Browns tie game 7-7

We're off to a fast start in Cleveland. The Browns scored on their first possession, too, on a 77-yard, nine-play drive led by QB Jake Delhomme and capped by Peyton Hillis's nine-yard TD run for the score.

Delhomme completed passes on the first three plays on the drive and then got out of a third-and-goal from the 20 jam when Carolina's Sherrod Martin was flagged for a helmet-to-helmet hit at the goal line on a Browns receiver. That gave Cleveland an automatic first down at the Carolina 9, where Hillis swept left and ran it in.

Panthers take quick 7-0 lead

So much for the stats.

Carolina hadn't scored a first-quarter TD all year. Cleveland's defense hadn't given up a TD on the opposing offense's first possession for 23 games -- the longest streak in the NFL.

But after five minutes Sunday, the Panthers led 7-0 after one of their most impressive drives of the year -- a nine-play, 81-yard march keyed mostly by the running of Mike Goodson.

Goodson finished the march with a 26-yard burst to score standing up. It was his first career TD. Jimmy Clausen also had a big third-down conversion pass to Steve Smith (and was roughed on the play, tacking on 15 more yards) and Jonathan Stewart -- who is the No.2 back today behind Goodson -- had a couple of nice runs, too.

5 notes (and a prediction) before Panthers-Browns game

I'm in Cleveland -- where gametime weather is supposed to be sunny and in the 40s -- while awaiting the Panthers-Browns game. Here are 5 few notes about it and my prediction (which I forgot to post as usual on Friday -- oops!):

1. Here's my column on Browns QB Jake Delhomme -- still feels weird writing that -- in advance of today's game. Delhomme says he will always consider himself a Panther, but you can bet he will try like crazy to beat Carolina today.

2. The last time the Panthers played in Cleveland was in 2002, when they won 13-6 to break an eight-game losing streak in John Fox’s first year. I barely remember that game, but I do remember racing to Akron from Cleveland in a rent-a-car right after it was over so I could cover LeBron James for the first time.

LeBron was playing in high school then and already a phenom. He was so popular many of his games were on pay-per-view in Ohio for $7.95 a pop. All of Ohio loved him and hoped he would one day play for the Cleveland Cavaliers. Man, a lot has happened in the intervening eight years.

In that game, incidentally, LeBron had 21 points, 14 rebounds and did a number of on-court pushups for violating his coach’s “no-cursing” rule.

3. Weird stat: the Browns have beaten every team in the NFL except Carolina. The Panthers are 3-0 in this very occasional series.

4. It will be fun to watch Mohamed Massaquoi (formerly of Independence High) play today for Cleveland. Massaquoi and Hakeem Nicks (also of Independence and now of the New York Giants) are the best two high-school receivers I’ve ever covered. Best running back? Nick Maddox of Kannapolis A.L. Brown (who was on Panthers' practice squad awhile but never made it into an NFL game like the other 2).

5. I’m 7-3 picking the outcome of Panthers’ games this season, mostly by picking them to lose. Today’s pick is in the same vein: Cleveland 17, Carolina 9.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone

Just a short note to all "Scott Says" readers today -- thanks so much for reading this blog and The Observer either online or in print. I am very thankful for you -- without readers, after all, none of us in the newspaper business would have a job. There is nothing a writer appreciates more than someone reading his stuff.

You guys are great. Have a fine Thanksgiving and forget about the Panthers' problems for at least 24 hours -- it will make that second piece of pumpkin pie go down a lot easier.

Jake likely to start vs Panthers

In just the sort of twist any good scriptwriter would love, it looks like Jake Delhomme will start Sunday at 1 p.m. for Cleveland in the Browns' home game against Carolina.

For the Panthers, meanwhile, Jimmy Clausen was back at practice today and will be the starter barring a setback. Last week's starter Brian St. Pierre still has a very sore shoulder -- he hurt it on the 88-yard TD pass to David Gettis Sunday, he said -- and so Tony Pike will likely be the No.2 QB for Carolina.

Delhomme, the QB for Carolina from 2003-09, has only started one game for his new Cleveland team -- the Sept.12 opener. He got a high ankle sprain in that one and by the time he returned, rookie QB Colt McCoy was playing well. Delhomme admitted he thought at times maybe he had played his last down because McCoy was doing so well.

Delhomme had a conference call with Charlotte-area media Wednesday and said it was "ironic" that his second start for the Browns will quite likely be against Carolina.

Delhomme, who went 58-40 as a starter for Carolina (including 5-3 in the postseason), also said he had remained close to several in the Panthers organization, most notably Jordan Gross, Jeff King and Matt Moore. He said he harbored no animosity toward the Panthers and that he considered the way they released him after last season a classy way to be fired.

McCoy has a high ankle sprain and is out at least for this week and likely for several more. Cleveland coach Eric Mangini said today he was "leaning" toward starting Delhomme due to Jake's familiarity with the Panthers. Seneca Wallace -- who has also had a high ankle sprain this season, making Browns QBs 3-for-3 with the injury -- would be the other option.

If Jake starts, that just made a game between a 1-9 Panther squad and a 3-7 Cleveland team a lot more interesting.

Can QB situation get any weirder for Panthers?

The Panthers continue to play musical chairs -- by necessity -- with the most important spot on the field. Today The Observer is reporting that the team will sign Keith Null, a former sixth-round draft pick who started four games in 2009 for the St. Louis Rams, to the practice squad (but he could be promoted if Jimmy Clausen isn't cleared to play due to his concussion).

A few QB notes while we've got a minute (and here's the link to my column on John Fox and his chipper attitude during these strange times):

1) This is the oddest Panther QB season since 2007, when Jake Delhomme's season-ending injury early gave rise to Vinny Testaverde, David Carr and Matt Moore all starting games. But that group had loads of NFL experience (except Moore) compared to this one.

2) Do you know when Brian St. Pierre actually won the job last week? In Wednesday's practice. It was apparent then to a large majority of the people on that practice field that BSP -- even without a training camp with the team -- understood more about cadences, snaps, play variations, etc., then Tony Pike did. Simply put, last Wednesday was an audition, and St. Pierre got the part.

3) Of course, now BSP has a sore arm. Not as serious as Clausen's concussion which kept him out last week, but still problematic.

Let's say both couldn't play due to injury Sunday at Cleveland. Would Fox actually skip over Pike again and play Null? Again, Wednesday's practice would be the key, but I think this time Pike would have the edge (after all, the Panthers weren't impressed enough with Null to sign him immediately after working him out).

4) As for Cleveland, the Browns may actually start Jake Delhomme this week, which I'd love to see simply because of all the possible story angles it would provide. Jake has only started one game for the Browns all season -- against Tampa in a Week 1 loss -- before he got a high-ankle sprain while throwing a key interception. That -- and rookie Colt McCoy's emergence (he's 2-3 as a starter) -- has kept Jake on the bench. But McCoy now has his own ankle injury and is questionable for Sunday. If he can't play, the Browns will choose between Jake and Seneca Wallace. Here's the full story from today's Cleveland Plain Dealer.

5 things I didn't like in Panthers' 37-13 loss to Ravens

Carolina’s 37-13 loss to Baltimore has a lot of lows to choose from. Here’s my five -- and here's the link to my column on Brian St. Pierre written after the game and in Monday's newspaper:

1) Third-down conversions. This is where Carolina’s offense really let down. The Panthers went 1-for-13 on third downs, often throwing very short, safe and ultimately unsuccessful passes on third-and-long. That's how you get to 1-9.

2) The takeover. Ravens fans really took over the stadium. We’ve seen it before – most notably when Patriots fans controlled about 90 percent of the Panthers' stadium in the fourth quarter of Carolina’s final loss during the 1-15 year of 2001. It wasn’t that bad Sunday, but the chant of “Let’s go, Ravens” was everywhere in the closing minutes in Charlotte.

3) Pass defense. Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco threw for 301 yards, never came close to getting picked off and had a pass rating of 110.8. The 56-yard TD bomb on Baltimore’s second play was an unfortunate symbol.

4) Pick six. Baltimore scored two touchdowns 11 seconds apart in the fourth quarter on back-to-back interception returns of Brian St. Pierre for TDs, which changed a 23-13 game into the 37-13 final score.

5) Kickoff coverage. Baltimore rookie David Reed’s 84-yard return of the second-half kickoff gave the Ravens a burst of momentum.

Baltimore clobbers Carolina, 37-13

Baltimore just clobbered Carolina, 37-13, to drop the Panthers to 1-9 this season.

The Ravens led the entire way, but Carolina actually got within a touchdown early in the fourth quarter on Brian St. Pierre's 88-yard TD pass to David Gettis. That made it 20-13, Baltimore, and gave the Panthers a bit of life.

But from then on, the Panthers crumbled. First, Baltimore drove for a field goal. Then St. Pierre threw two straight interceptions that were returned for TDs only 11 seconds apart, and that made a 23-13 game into a 37-13 rout. Baltimore, which hadn't scored a defensive TD all season, scored two in a couple of heartbeats.

About all that was left in the stadium at the end were a couple of thousand Ravens fans, chanting "Let's go, Ravens!" and generally making Bank of America Stadium their own. It was only the latest in a series of embarrassing moments for the Panthers.

Baltimore QB Joe Flacco was superb, throwing for 301 yards and continually eluding the Panther rush as the Ravens improved to 7-3.

The Panthers have lost their last 3 games by 31, 15 and 24 points, respectively.

Panther coach John Fox went with St. Pierre the entire way at quarterback, even after the back-to-back interceptions that resulted in TDs.

Fox also insisted on using all his timeouts at the end of the game when down by 24 points. He then ran the ball twice once he got it back. Panther RB Mike Goodson did have a second straight 100-yard rushing game, including a 45-yarder.

Ravens now ahead 37-13 after 2 "pick sixes"

They call it "Pick Six" in football -- when you intercept the ball and run it in for a touchdown, or six points.

Brian St. Pierre just threw two of those -- on back-to-back offensive snaps -- and Baltimore's 23-13 lead suddenly ballooned to 37-13.

St. Pierre's first interception went to Ed Reed, who ran it for awhile, then lateraled it to fellow safety Dawan Landry, who scored.

On the Panthers' next offensive play, BSP threw the ball directly to Ravens' legendary linebacker Ray Lewis, who ran it in from 24 yards.

That made it 37-13 in a fourth quarter that was once 20-13.

Ravens extend lead to 23-13

Baltimore just likely put this game out of reach by getting a 49-yard field goal from Billy Cundiff with 5:55 left in the game. That FG pushed Baltimore to a 23-13 lead.

Down 20-13, Carolina had the ball but couldn't do anything with it earlier in the fourth quarter. Baltimore then took over after a punt, drove about 45 yards and, after a third-down sack, had Cundiff kick his third FG of the game.

Panthers cut lead to 20-13 on spectacular TD

Well that was a bolt out of the blue -- Carolina just scored on an 88-yard touchdown pass from Brian St. Pierre to David Gettis. The score cut Baltimore's lead to 20-13.

Before that, St. Pierre had 51 yards passing and had had a laughably bad and conservative game. That changed with one spectacular play, however, as rookie Gettis beat cornerback Josh Wilson badly, hauled in St. Pierre's strike and made it a one-touchdown game.

The play was tied for the second-longest TD play in Carolina history. The longest: Kerry Collins' 89-yard TD pass to Willie Green in 1995, the Panthers' inaugural season

Panthers cut Baltimore lead to 20-6

After Captain Munnerlyn's 64-yard kickoff return to the Baltimore 25, Carolina had the best chance it will probably get to score a TD.

Mike Goodson's first run went for 12 yards, and the Panthers had first and 10 on the Baltimore 13. After that, though, the normal Carolina offense kicked in -- a four-yard loss on a Goodson run, a false start on Dante Rosario and two incomplete passes.

So John Kasay's 40-yard field goal just cut Baltimore's lead to 20-6. Both teams have had quick field goals in the third quarter, but it looks like for Carolina to score a TD in this game it will probably have to be by the defense or special teams.

Ravens up lead to 20-3 over Panthers

Baltimore rookie David Reed took the second-half kickoff back 84 yards, setting up a Ravens field goal 62 seconds into the half.

Reed went up the right sideline barely touched behind great blocking before Carolina's C.J. Wilson finally tracked him down. Then Carolina's defense allowed only three yards in three plays -- Joe Flacco threw two incompletions, which were as many as he threw the entire first half. Billy Cundiff came in for a 33-yard field goal and it's 20-3, Baltimore.

Speaking of long kickoff returns, Captain Munnerlyn just ran the next one back to the Baltimore 25 -- a 64-yard kickoff return.

17-3, Baltimore, at halftime

Baltimore has a 14-point lead at halftime over Carolina, which is surely insurmountable given how bad the Panthers offense has been.

Other than Mike Goodson (11 carries, 69 yards), the Panthers have done nothing. Their passing game is as bad as it's been all season.

Joe Flacco, on the other hand, is 16-for-18 for 213 yards in the first half. So it's hard to say what's been worse -- the Panthers' passing offense or its passing defense.

Carolina did get one decent chance to score late in the half when it recovered a Baltimore fumble at midfield. Quickly, though, Brian St. Pierre got sacked, then threw a near-interception that Steve Smith corraled for about 7 yards and then threw a sideline pass David Clowney dropped. With 4th-and-12 from its own 49 and 0:09 left in the first half, Carolina decided to punt, drawing a cascade of boos from the home fans.

Ravens take 17-3 lead

Baltimore just went up by two touchdowns on Carolina and now leads 17-3 after Ray Rice scored from one yard out standing up with 1:57 left in the first half.

The Ravens have scored on three of their four first-half drives as Carolina's defense continues to get torched by Joe Flacco, who has been just about perfect. The only time Baltimore didn't score it fumbled at the Carolina 15.

The eight-play, 51-yard drive included a long pass to TE Todd Heap, who fumbled it while going out of bounds. Carolina recovered but James Anderson's tiptoe dance trying to stay inbounds while doing so failed.

This is the second straight week Carolina's defense has really looked bad -- it gave up 31 points last week to Tampa Bay.

Ravens fumble; lead remains 10-3

Just when it looked like Baltimore was sure to score some more points, the Ravens fumbled at Carolina's 15 on their third possession.

Joe Flacco handed the ball to Ray Rice, who looked like he thought it was going to be a fake. The ball bounded on the ground and Tyler Brayton recovered for Carolina.

Carolina immediately went 3-and-out, though, and has punted back to the Ravens. Carolina still trails, 10-3, with 5:24 left in the second quarter.

Panthers cut Raven lead to 10-3

John Kasay's 45-yard field goal just got Carolina on the board and sliced Baltimore's lead to 10-3 with 13:39 left in the second quarter.

The drive was 53 yards -- 45 of which came on one explosive play, when Mike Goodson barreled through the middle, made a couple of sweet cutbacks and was off. Goodson now has carried the ball eight times for 66 yards and is well on his way to a second straight 100-yard game.

The Panthers have yet to attempt a deep -- or difficult -- pass with Brian St. Pierre in their first 3 possessions. Also worth noting: there are an inordinate number of Baltimore fans in the stadium.

Ravens take 10-0 lead over Panthers

Baltimore just took a 10-0 lead over Carolina on a 22-yard field goal by Billy Cundiff with 1:15 left in the first quarter.

Baltimore quarterback Joe Flacco is absolutely eating up the Panthers -- he's 7-for-7 for 120 yards so far. Carolina finally stopped him on that drive on third-and-goal on the five when Baltimore inexplicably called a run play, which was stopped.

Carolina could have stopped the drive earlier, but on a third-and-long play the Panthers' Everette Brown was called for illegal use of hands when rushing the quarterback, so Baltimore's 13-play, 84-yard march continued.

The Panthers' new QB, Brian St. Pierre, is 3-for-5 for 20 yards so far, so he's now thrown as many passes today as he did in his previous 8-year career.

A horrible start for Panthers

Carolina's first 150 seconds couldn't have gone much worse in its game against Baltimore Sunday.

The Panthers went three-and-out on their first series. On third-and-short, they took new quarterback Brian St. Pierre off the field and lined up Mike Goodson in the shotgun. But then Ryan Kalil's snap was too high -- Goodson had to bat it down and fall on it, messing up the play entirely.

Baltimore then got the ball and scored on its second play -- a 56-yard strike from Joe Flacco to T.J. Houshmandzadeh. Safety Charles Godfrey got over late, T.J. got behind Chris Gamble and that was that.

Carolina's second possession just ended, too. It was a little better as St. Pierre moved the Panthers to the Baltimore 45 before stalling. Baltimore will start its second possession at its own 12.

My Panther prediction and other notes

A couple of notes as we head into the weekend:

-- Sounds like it's going to be a beautiful weekend in Charlotte -- likely one of our last great ones before the cold sets in for good.

With that in mind, I wonder how many people will show up -- and actually stay -- through four quarters of Panthers-Baltimore Ravens football at Bank of America Stadium Sunday?

With Brian "Who?" St. Pierre quarterbacking Carolina, the game at least has an element of mystery. But the Panthers are injury-ravaged and weren't much good before that, and the Ravens are healthy and have been off for 10 days.

I'm 6-3 picking the 1-8 Panthers so far this year week-by-week. This week's pick: Baltimore 24, Carolina 10.

-- I listened to a bit of John Kilgo calling the Davidson basketball game in Puerto Rico Thursday (Davidson lost by 14 to West Virginia). I really like listening to Kilgo -- something about listening to that gravelly voice, mingled with his occasional and outright disgust when something goes wrong, gets me tickled. When Davidson missed its 19th straight 3-pointer in the game, Kilgo said angrily: "That's 19 straight whiffs for Davidson." He sounded like he was ready to go out there and fire a couple of threes himself.

-- If you're going to be in the Birkdale//Huntersville area tonight, I'll be at the Barnes and Noble there from 6-8 p.m. Friday signing copies of some of my sports books (including the one just published called "What It Means to be a Tar Heel" and/or talking about The Observer, story ideas or whatever else is on your mind. Feel free to stop by, and please don't feel compelled to buy anything.

The first 10 people who come by and mention directly to me that they saw this info in the "Scott Says" blog will, however, get a free signed copy of my 2004 Panthers book, "Tales from the Panthers Sideline." Jake Delhomme is on the cover of that one, so you know that was awhile back.

-- I really enjoyed doing my story today on Bob Moore, the 84-year-old high school referee who has reffed for 51 straight seasons in the Charlotte area. Here's the link.

This QB situation is getting ridiculous

I can't decide whether this is more of an indictment of Tony Pike and Armanti Edwards or an endorsement of a player I'd never heard of until last week, but John Fox's decision to start Brian St. Pierre Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens strikes me as a little ridiculous. (Jimmy Clausen is out with a concussion).

All sorts of theories abound on this one. Let's run through several, and I'll assign my own highly sujective "truthiness factor" to each:

1) "We're throwing BSP to the wolves" theory -- This one goes like this... The Ravens are going to probably injure whomever is in the starting lineup, so why not make St. Pierre the sacrificial lamb? Truthiness factor: 10 percent.

2) "John Fox can't stand Tony Pike" theory -- How can a guy who has been in training camp and in all those QB meetings and at least knows the playbook -- even if he is a rookie sixth-round draft pick -- not be ahead of a guy who was changing his son's diaper when he got the call from his agent last week? Truthiness factor: 70 percent.

3) "Panthers are playing for a high draft choice" theory: The best thing for Carolina at this point is to lose, and this guarantees it. Sorry, I don't buy it. John Fox isn't going to be here for this draft choice. doesn't care where it is. Truthiness factor: 0 percent.

4) "Take that, personnel department" theory: It's a well-known fact that Fox and his personnel department haven't seen eye-to-eye for much of this season. He doesn't like rookie quarterbacks. In fact, he says here, he's so tired of starting them when they're not ready that he's going to skip Pike (and Armanti) entirely and start someone who just got here. Take that, personnel department. Truthiness factor: 60 percent.

In reality, this is a combination of a few things, but in Fox's mind it undoubtedly boils down to his catchall slogan: "It gives us the best chance to win."

And who knows? Maybe it does? Pike hasn't exactly lit it up in limited action. Maybe starting BSP gives the Panthers a 10 percent chance of winning Sunday rather than a 7 percent chance. Either way, Panthers are going to lose Sunday.

For St. Pierre isn't Vinny Testaverde, as he would freely admit. And this, to me, seems pretty crazy.