tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post6557961797578127025..comments2023-10-16T06:09:53.892-04:00Comments on Scott Says ...: Rivera is wrong; Hardy should still sitUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-53063620342209026212014-11-03T17:29:45.073-05:002014-11-03T17:29:45.073-05:00I couldn't disagree more.
Why? Because Hardy...I couldn't disagree more. <br /><br />Why? Because Hardy isn't guilty. The only possible way the judge came to a guilty verdict is that she hates athletes, or hates men. Not one single shred of evidence was presented. The prosecution's entire case is, "she said he beat her up and threatened to kill her." <br /><br />C'mon now, if he really picked her up over his head (that would be about 7.5 feet in the air) and threw her into a tub, it is a logistical impossibility for someone as small as her to emerge from that with no broken bones. If he picked her up over his head and threw her on a couch covered with guns, it would be impossible for her to not have bruises, at the minimum. Where are the photos of the bruised body? Where are the x-rays of the broken bones she would have had to have suffered? There is no way she could show up at the trial looking like she had just stepped off the set of America's Next Top Model like she did if she really endured the things she accuses him of. <br /><br />When the trial does happen, the jury will acquit him in about 15 minutes. <br /><br />So yes, Hardy should be playing right now. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17089776297392081282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-47613179166574174152014-11-03T14:55:57.389-05:002014-11-03T14:55:57.389-05:00To add to the already overwhelming comments in fav...To add to the already overwhelming comments in favor of Hardy being allowed to play, the first "conviction" by a judge i IMMEDIATELY revoked as soon as Hardy requested a jury trial. So that puts him right back to innocent until PROVEN guilty, and any respectable business would not ethically initiate any punishments till he is found guilty, unless we are back in colonial Salem. Here is the simple facts. If the ray Rice incident had not happened, Greg would have been on the field while awaiting his trial. Public pressure is driving this. Politics and media as usual. No one is discounting Greg does not have ownership in this, but he is not being treated fairly by the NFL for sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-83489738710253032722014-11-03T14:21:23.361-05:002014-11-03T14:21:23.361-05:00We have to quit throwing the baby out with the bat...We have to quit throwing the baby out with the bath water. All these cases are not the same. First court decision is as if it never happended since his appeal for jury to hear it but frankly in the court of public opinion, it stands. He should be back on the field at this point. Frankly if found not guilty, NFL should take cover. They have basically sat him for something he was found not guilty over if that becomes the case and I hope he cleans their clock. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-74914273419420857152014-11-03T11:35:07.218-05:002014-11-03T11:35:07.218-05:00Scott,
I and everyone I know disagree wholehearte...Scott,<br /><br />I and everyone I know disagree wholeheartedly. He has already missed 8 games, 2 more than the new punishment for 1st time domestic abuse. If you want to write an article about the NFL and domestic abuse why don't you write about the Niners McDonald? There is no story here with Hardy. He has done his time X 4 according to the rules when he was arrested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-17868901677574679292014-11-03T10:13:25.384-05:002014-11-03T10:13:25.384-05:00How about sitting SCAM Newton? Or suspend him for ...How about sitting SCAM Newton? Or suspend him for being a QB and a leader?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17052110067686136880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-85424635789075522622014-11-03T09:35:17.378-05:002014-11-03T09:35:17.378-05:00Keep in mind -- when the incident happened, and ev...Keep in mind -- when the incident happened, and even when he was initially found guilty, the "standard" punishment was a 2-game suspension.<br /><br />If Hardy hadn't appealed to a jury trial, he would have sat 2 games and that would be that.<br /><br />He and his agent need to barter a deal with the league -- prove that it's not about the money -- pay back 6 games worth of checks and get back on the field. The argument being: Even if he is eventually found guilty by jury trial, the suspension by the league will be 6 games. By bartering a deal, he's essentially saying: "I'm pleading guilty to the NFL, and accepting my suspension, so I can get back on the field -- I'll let the courts decide what they decide whenever they get to it.".<br /><br />Also, there's a point to be made that the rules were changed on Hardy mid-stream. He could argue that if he knew about the 6-game (not 2-game) suspension, and if he knew about the Commissioner's list "policy" for legal limbo, then he never would have committed the act in the first place. Totally not believable, I know, but it's somewhat valid nonetheless. <br /><br />And finally, if it really isn't about the money, then as soon as the Commissioner's list happened, he should have found a legal way to waive his appeal, plead guilty, accept his misdemeanor, accept his 6-game suspension (and argue it should be 2 since that was the apparent rule-of-thumb at the time), and get on with playing football.<br /><br />What a mess. And yes, his fault. 100%.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-88953414922279591002014-11-03T07:04:59.214-05:002014-11-03T07:04:59.214-05:00Josh Brent of the Cowboys was found guilty of mans...Josh Brent of the Cowboys was found guilty of manslaughter in the death of his teammate and they just signed him to a 1-year extension and he is practicing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-74847450196539890832014-11-03T06:16:27.026-05:002014-11-03T06:16:27.026-05:00I am curious what happens if he is found innocent?...I am curious what happens if he is found innocent? Hardy will be a free agent, who was never allowed due process. And who was not allowed to do his job or show his skills to potential employers. I don't have a dog in the fight - but curious wha sort of liability, or suit Hardy could bring back on the NFL or the Panthers?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-32244341050495983202014-11-02T21:09:53.131-05:002014-11-02T21:09:53.131-05:00Scott, you are probably correct that the Panthers ...Scott, you are probably correct that the Panthers are the big losers, having to pay Hardy for no production/play.<br /><br />However, I bought my season tickets on the premise that the Panthers would have Hardy playing and that he would help them be much more competitive. His not playing takes money out of the Panthers' pockets, but surely devalues my tickets and hurts the team's competitiveness. Between Hardy's sitting out and Cam's underperformance - especially against Pittsburgh, Green Bay and the Saints - I've really felt shortchanged in year 20. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-13396096509358331152014-11-02T17:11:51.253-05:002014-11-02T17:11:51.253-05:00Scott is right about Hardys defense wanting to pus...Scott is right about Hardys defense wanting to push the court date back and that has backfired in our face. But policy is policy and he has served the amount of games that is required of someone guilty. It's like he is being held to some higher standards because he appealed his case for a jury trial. I say let him play. If he's found guilty next year then make him payback the money for the 6 weeks he sat and don't resign him. As a Panther fan the news of the Gregg Hardy domestic violence case hurt almost as bad as the release of Steve Smith news. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-33599327636433688322014-11-02T17:08:55.779-05:002014-11-02T17:08:55.779-05:00If not Rivera then who? Rivera and his staff is no...If not Rivera then who? Rivera and his staff is not the problem. All teams struggle when the QB is the MAIN problem. A new coach and a GM want make any difference IF you don't have a good QB. For all goin after Ron and his staff for the blame and not Cam, will get their feelings hurt at the of the season and in the future. All because of Pop Flash Newton. Ron and his staff don't deserve to be fired. Cam is not worth it!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-13334008966861981972014-11-02T14:18:36.694-05:002014-11-02T14:18:36.694-05:00Scott Fowler is as wrong as he is arrogant - very....Scott Fowler is as wrong as he is arrogant - very.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-1822526678580958202014-11-02T12:44:51.641-05:002014-11-02T12:44:51.641-05:00Why shouldn't he allowed to play? He is await...Why shouldn't he allowed to play? He is awaiting a trial just as the SF 49ers player, what's the difference? Also, why not play someone who is being paid although he is not playing? The league has already made their point by making him sit; however we aren't pointing out the fact he also called the police that night. If the trial is postponed, he might as well play and the system do its due diligence but not make him forfeit games but not forfeit his game checks. I think Scott has been reaching far lately, if this is the case then why was the Charlotte Observer praising Steve Smith so much this year when he's no longer and a Panther and his first years here wasn't all rosy as well? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-75001419738295275552014-11-02T12:28:21.712-05:002014-11-02T12:28:21.712-05:00I know it's a different offense, but both the ...I know it's a different offense, but both the 1st and 2nd string RB's with the Pittsburgh Steelers were arrested and have missed zero games. Domestic abuse is unacceptable. Drunk driving should be too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-37534761452441981582014-11-02T11:41:45.203-05:002014-11-02T11:41:45.203-05:00Scott, why do you want to keep the man down?Scott, why do you want to keep the man down?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-11364021519880382992014-11-02T09:56:14.053-05:002014-11-02T09:56:14.053-05:00don't chime in...don't chime in... jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-23075901530548483352014-11-02T09:29:13.520-05:002014-11-02T09:29:13.520-05:00We live by a constitution in America that says we ...We live by a constitution in America that says we are innocent UNTIL proven guilty by a trial of our peers. What has happened here is he was found guilty in the court of public opinion. I don't think Jerry Jones has missed any time and he's been accused of something. Yes, Hardy should have known better than to have sketchy people around him, but when you have money, sketchiness comes around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-2989932605863648292014-11-02T08:31:54.259-05:002014-11-02T08:31:54.259-05:00Scott is being politically correct in his position...Scott is being politically correct in his position that "Hardy should still sit" SF Niners have a linebacker playing each game while waiting for trial on domestic violence issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-72204408750702432472014-11-02T08:25:47.734-05:002014-11-02T08:25:47.734-05:00David from Stallings.
In most professions, we wou...David from Stallings.<br /><br />In most professions, we would have likely been fired.<br />I have no idea where you work but if an employee of mine did something so egregious, I don't want him anywhere close to the place of business.<br /><br />You can minimize it as a "misdemeanor" but hitting a women, threatening to kill her and have enough weaponry on your couch to start a war rules out any description of a safe and reasonable employee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-91297095698895738352014-11-02T07:56:25.881-05:002014-11-02T07:56:25.881-05:00Fowler you are just a part of the bs media hype tr...Fowler you are just a part of the bs media hype train. People like you are the reason Ferguson, MO turned into what it did. CLAP...CLAP...CLAP...this is what you want right? Recognition and applause for you bs articles?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-69927128394998150662014-11-01T22:50:41.138-04:002014-11-01T22:50:41.138-04:00Hardy should be playing and I hope the league has ...Hardy should be playing and I hope the league has sense enough to reinstate him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-15957872862954951092014-11-01T22:36:23.141-04:002014-11-01T22:36:23.141-04:00Scott that makes absolutely no sense. How can yo...Scott that makes absolutely no sense. How can you say nothing has changed when six weeks have passed. Along that logic you can say that a man sentenced to 5 years in prison should never get out because "circumstances of the crime have not changed". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-38139543505312464712014-11-01T22:16:21.339-04:002014-11-01T22:16:21.339-04:00He's paid his dues. Why penalize the team? I...He's paid his dues. Why penalize the team? If you look at North Carolina law, he can't be suspended without pay, but yet, you want him suspended with pay. Innocent or guilty, he has lost a heckuva lot of money for his next contract. It's a bleeping misdemeanor. There was no TKO, no bloody noses. What would Wal Mart do? What's the federal government's policy on domestic violence? Why should the NFL be any different? 6 games is way, way, way to much for a few bruises.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-46672857984006865192014-11-01T21:41:12.449-04:002014-11-01T21:41:12.449-04:00Who is KitKats? Who is KitKats? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-58274583792215050032014-11-01T19:45:27.066-04:002014-11-01T19:45:27.066-04:00Scott, reading your comments make me realize what ...Scott, reading your comments make me realize what a goody two shoes you are. Most of us make mistakes in life and Hardy has a chance to make changes going forward. To me it is plain and simple, regardless of how he is sentenced for this misdemeanor, he should have the opportunity to work. PERIOD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com