tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post1362921064012243817..comments2023-10-16T06:09:53.892-04:00Comments on Scott Says ...: 2 coaching mistakes by Rivera cost PanthersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-44184098573247164242012-10-02T22:25:09.088-04:002012-10-02T22:25:09.088-04:00You mean it want Armanti's fault?You mean it want Armanti's fault?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-25376362782389786322012-10-02T15:59:58.985-04:002012-10-02T15:59:58.985-04:00---Lack of Confidence Costs Panthers Entire Season...---Lack of Confidence Costs Panthers Entire Season?--- <br /><br />Clearly, the team was flat and disengaged on the short week vs. the Giants. I'm a loyal, understanding and forgiving fan, so I can let the home team slide on a tall, tall task like facing The World Champions on three days rest. My frustration with the Panthers at the quarter pole of 2012 season is focused more squarely on DC Sean McDermott's choices late Sunday and OC Rob Chudzinski use of this abortive Wildcat non-sense. ENOUGH already.<br /><br />The calls from both coordinators at the end of the 4th quarter was schizophrenic and sand-lot-ish. After the Falcons pulled to within one point with 4:57 to go in the game the Panthers break the huddle and line up in the Wildcat on 1st down. WHAT?<br /><br />Chud and the Panthers offense had successfully dictated the flow for the entire first half and much of the second. They earned quick and lasting respect from Mike Nolan's elite-ish defense on the first drive of the game with a balance of passing and rushing. So why, with an amazingly talented backfield and the continued effective bro-mance between Newton and Olsen, would you ever break the huddle and line up in the Wildcat on 1st down late in the 4th quarter while protecting a 1 point lead? Are NFL linebackers really going to honor the pass and soften up the running lanes when Cam is listlessly lined up as a wide out?<br /><br />The Wildcat is an effective ploy for high-school teams, a few FCS college teams and that trifling Miami Dolphins offense from a few years back when Ronnie Effing Brown lined up at QB. It is a desperate scheme used most effectively by teams who have a passing-challenged quarterback and MUST be used more than once or twice per game to allow a rhythm to be established. <br /><br />NEWS FLASH: We have a very talented quarterback who can both run and throw with a high level of effectiveness. So, to split him out wide as a WR and essentially remove him from the play is asinine, especially in front of a Mike Nolan defense. It was a a show of weakness and a revelation of a lack of confidence at best. <br /><br />The Panthers had played very solid football up to this point and were poised to exit Atlanta with a 2-1 record in the NFC South and a brand new perspective on the 2012 season. However, Chud's choice to come out in Wildcat on first down prevented any momentum from being established on the potential game sealing drive as well as exposing a lack of trust in his own offensive personnel. Did he think he was going to catch Mike Nolan napping? Is splitting Cam out wide and a direct snap to non-passer really a show of offensive muscle and confidence? <br /><br />It was as if the coaching staff had hit the PANIC button. The offense had a chance to close it out and Chud chose to... well, I'm not sure he chose anything (sigh). <br /><br />Having said all that, I could potentially agree with Coach Rivera's choice to put his defense on the field to win the game with a minute to go. However, Coach McDermott chose NOT to line up and let his men play defense, like they had been doing with great effectiveness all afternoon, he chose to evoke the saddest of all tragedies: the Prevent Defense. The Prevent is truly only good for preventing wins in the NFL. Blame Nakamura if you must, but coach Mac botched that one.<br /><br />The Wildcat and The Prevent all within three minutes of each other. Come on coach(es), we're better than that.<br /><br />-Brad WardAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07170720962422395991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-6567357596424204232012-10-01T23:43:42.847-04:002012-10-01T23:43:42.847-04:00sorry guys, but the punt was absolutely the right ...sorry guys, but the punt was absolutely the right call. if you ever hope to win a super bowl you have to be able to stop a 1st and 99 with a minute to go. the worst defense in the league should be able to hold that advantage.<br /><br />as far as us running the ball so well, thats another fallacy. the panthers are not a power running team able to impose their will when the other team knows a run is coming. very few teams in the history of football have been able to do that.<br /><br />deangelo is a rhythm runner and stewart is a change-of-pace runner, even though he is termed a power-runner. and cam is best when he picks his spots. none of those 3 guys strikes fear into the opponent on a short-yardage must run.<br /><br />unless you have a john riggins, jim brown, larry czonka type runner, a known short-yardage situation will always favor the defense as they know exactly what you are going to do.<br /><br />i didnt see the first half, but i am disheartened to read about the terrible clock management at the end of the half. and this isnt a panther-exclusive weakness. its just so silly for professional teams, with years of experience and tons of assistant coaches to be unable to correctly call a time-out. its just inexcusable.<br /><br />and how do you let a receiver get behind you on a 1st and 99? <br /><br />that one play probably ruined our season hopes. we could have been one game behind the division leader, with the tie-break advantage and a home game remaining against that same division leader. instead we are 3 games back with no tie-breaker advantage.<br /><br />sometimes learning to be a champion is a hard road, and that is one brutal lesson in bad clock management and bad defense.<br /><br />but we did show some good football and we are capable of running off a victory streak. lets hope we find that rhythm and learn from this game instead of being broken by it.<br /><br />and at the very least, unlike two seasons ago, we were in the game and it was exciting. we have a ways to go, but at least we are not boring anymore!<br /><br />go panthers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-28316221889793368622012-10-01T21:43:29.434-04:002012-10-01T21:43:29.434-04:00Have we ever had a coach whose decisions were not ...Have we ever had a coach whose decisions were not constantly questioned? <br /><br />I don't think the punt was necessarily the wrong call, but the defense we played after the punt did us in. Why no blitz when we knew they had to pass from their own 1 yard line? Why did our defensive backfield let the receivers get behind them on that play? Last but not least, why did we keep giving Atlanta's receivers the sideline routes when they knew Atlanta had to stop the clock after every play? <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-8769492235864908942012-10-01T19:04:04.822-04:002012-10-01T19:04:04.822-04:00Grantland said it best. And it's not "pla...Grantland said it best. And it's not "playing the percentages," because there was a statistically better chance of winning by going for it on 4th and 1. <br /><br />Quote:<br /><br /><br />ESPN Stats and Info also found that, since 2001, teams who ran the ball on fourth-and-1 in the fourth quarter with a lead and the ball between the 40- and 50-yard line have converted on 71.9 percent of those carries. And according to Brian Burke's fourth-down calculator, the Panthers would be in the right to go for it in this situation if they thought they could succeed 35 percent of the time on fourth-and-1. Thirty-five percent! Remember: that's the average team. The Panthers are not your average short-yardage running team. In addition to the considerable skills of Cam Newton, Carolina has spent nearly $50 million on running backs DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart to ensure that their running game is effective. If you don't trust your team to pick up one yard with the game on the line in the fourth quarter, why did you spend close to $50 million on running backs? What's the point of having Cam Newton?<br /><br />(site note: Did Rivera really doubt his team's ability to convert after they "failed" to convert on third down? That seems impossibly short-sighted, especially considering Newton actually made it past the sticks before having the ball knocked out of his hands. Since Newton arrived in town, the Panthers have faced third- or fourth-and-1 on 24 occasions. They've converted on 21 of those 24 opportunities.)<br /><br />Don't believe all those numbers? Fine. Throw all the numbers out. Pretend you've got your life savings riding on a Panthers victory. Would you rather the Panthers try to get one yard with Cam Newton or try to stop Matt Ryan from picking up 50 yards at home against Haruki Nakamura? Do you think a single Falcons fan in the Georgia Dome was upset that the Panthers didn't try to go for it against that legendarily fierce Falcons front four? Of course not. It felt like a gift because it was one.<br /><br />Given his team's particular mix of strengths and weaknesses, and the extremely high stakes of the situation, Rivera's decision to punt is a strong candidate for worst coaching decision of the year. ESPN Stats and Info's win expectancy model estimates that it dropped Carolina's chances of winning from 83.5 percent to 57.4 percent without adjusting for the specific skills of the two teams; chances are that Rivera dropped his team's "true" chances of winning by 35-40 percent by punting.Brandonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-59132863562972291302012-10-01T18:39:52.704-04:002012-10-01T18:39:52.704-04:00I thought the clock management at the end of the f...I thought the clock management at the end of the first half was excellent. Never call a time out when you're on your own half of the field with less than a minute left. Never call your second time out until there's less than 40 seconds left. After that, things worked and went perfectly, except Steve Smith fouled everything up with a stupid push off. <br />The Panthers were only down 3 points and were to get the ball at the start of the second half, so the number one priority was to not let the opponent score again before halftime. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-37223380950474695312012-10-01T16:49:23.247-04:002012-10-01T16:49:23.247-04:00Hey, I'm a "glass half full" kind of...Hey, I'm a "glass half full" kind of guy. I believe that the Panthers can correct mistakes, come together, go on a run and (Dare I say it?) even win a wild card!!!<br /><br />HOWEVER, if the Panthers do flame out this season all is not lost!<br />I have four words for you Jerry Richardson... Bill Cowher YEAH BABY!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-88314962350967540072012-10-01T16:48:34.263-04:002012-10-01T16:48:34.263-04:00This is the same gamble that the organization made...This is the same gamble that the organization made when Dom Capers and John Fox called plays. This is what the Panthers want. They are not a gambling organization who goes for it. They play a close game and make everyone sweat it out at the end when they play not to lose by keeping it close. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-44108182083817943892012-10-01T16:43:07.161-04:002012-10-01T16:43:07.161-04:00Training camp started this year and i look at pict...Training camp started this year and i look at pictures from the training camp. A LOT OF SMILING & PLAYING...even with Coach RR. <br />Which seems to be the problem. TOO MUCH PLAYING AND JOKING and NOT learning your assignments. Unfortunately the miscues will NOT get displayed in practice, but in games such as Atlanta & NY...where the guys look as if they had NO training camp and don't know ANY of their assignments. <br />Time for the coaching staff to CUT OUT ALL THE PLAYING AN PRACTICAL JOKES!! & put some urgency into the team. The CAROLINA PANTHER FANS are sick and tired of losing seasons.....PERIOD!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-16115934923329896362012-10-01T16:38:07.489-04:002012-10-01T16:38:07.489-04:00I can't say that going for it on 4th and a lon...I can't say that going for it on 4th and a long 1 was the right option, though I feel this game was coached, generically, rather than taking a chance to get a win. Whether to go for it or not is Apples and Oranges...some coaches would, some wouldn't. Bottom line is that we got the BEST possible scenario out of it....them having to go the entire length of the field. The coaching move that is most questionable is the personel we had on the field. Experience has shown us that we can't defend the deep ball so WHY GIVE THEM TIME. send a free blitzer and make Matt Ryan rush the deep pass rather than sending 4 on Max Protection and giving him 5 seconds to step into his throw. Rivera lost this game because he failed to strategies a way to close out the game. You either go all out on offense or you play defense to prevent the big play. From the 1 yd line, they'd have to go at least 65 yards for a makeable field goal. Rivera looks outmatched every Sunday. I no longer have much invested in this team. We have great players...some good ones...some rotational guys and inexperienced coaching. It's not a good lookSeanPthePhotographerhttp://www.seanpressley.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-18221717657484962302012-10-01T16:24:43.123-04:002012-10-01T16:24:43.123-04:00#3. Not using Armanti Edwards more @ QB!#3. Not using Armanti Edwards more @ QB!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-71946918493253046382012-10-01T16:15:53.725-04:002012-10-01T16:15:53.725-04:00A question I have is after Cam fumbled the Refs st...A question I have is after Cam fumbled the Refs stopped the clock with 1:41 remaining to reveiw the play. Then when they put it back in play the play clock was at 25 seconds and the game clock remained at 1:41. Help me to understand a rule or something I must be missing because Atlanta was out of T.O's and got an extra 15 seconds to boot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-33472157259188523452012-10-01T16:12:31.755-04:002012-10-01T16:12:31.755-04:00This team needs a coach with a strong personality....This team needs a coach with a strong personality....can we get Cowher??? Please?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-15276078455758250022012-10-01T15:39:57.606-04:002012-10-01T15:39:57.606-04:00Same type of gutless non-coaching that marks the R...Same type of gutless non-coaching that marks the Riveras of the world, and why they are just the paving stones that risk-taking winners like Belichick and Coughlin walk over on the way to championships. <br /><br />Until the Hurney era ends, I don't think the culture of the Panthers will have any room for even playoff-caliber football, much less a trophy.Scott Nicholsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14253728554830553360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-45755570393061704342012-10-01T14:39:05.848-04:002012-10-01T14:39:05.848-04:00Thank you Scott - you have summed it up nicely. T...Thank you Scott - you have summed it up nicely. This was a coaching fail in every way possible. Rivera has failed to prepare the team at least twice this year (TB and NYG) and yesterday he didnt manage the clock well nor did he act aggressively when he should have. We dont need another John Fox 2.0 - we need someone who will motivate, prepare, and be aggressive. I am very doubtful Rivera is that guy now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-74083394336432867812012-10-01T14:04:45.067-04:002012-10-01T14:04:45.067-04:00Even in the NFL, the worst defensive team should b...Even in the NFL, the worst defensive team should be able to stop the BEST offensive team if that team has 99 yds to go and zero time outs. Punting was the best call.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-26232737626331194202012-10-01T13:00:51.770-04:002012-10-01T13:00:51.770-04:00I'm an analyst by trade and it seems clear tha...I'm an analyst by trade and it seems clear that Rivera made the wrong choice. I was one of those guys yelling at the TV screen to go for it on 4th-and-1. Why?<br /><br />As former Panthers beat writer shows today, by punting for it, Rivera decreased the chances of winning by over 26%.<br /><br />http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/39772/analytics-rivera-made-wrong-choice<br /><br />The second is to learn from the team that doesn't punt.<br /><br />http://espn.go.com/espn/playbook/story/_/id/8307736/tmq-praises-coach-punt-celebrates-innovative-mind-football<br /><br />From a leadership standpoint, I think it's hard to instill the idea that you're a hard-nose, leave it all on the field, kind of team if you're willing to go home with unused offensive effort. When you look at the heart of the team, you have to look at the coach.<br /><br />And when you look at the coach, at least in this instance, his experience as a LB probably colored his judgment and helped him make the wrong choice.<br /><br />But when you have the most expensive backfield in football, according to Marty Hurney, and you have the most mobile QB in football, punting on 4th-and-1 just seems foolish.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02799507539114039188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-13012011171521315562012-10-01T12:30:37.126-04:002012-10-01T12:30:37.126-04:00Wrong decision to punt?? No way. It was clearly th...Wrong decision to punt?? No way. It was clearly the correct decision, based on field position an dtime remaining. You have to depend on your defense to be able to stop a team from going the length of the field in less than two minutes, with no time-outs remaining. Coaching error? No way, unless you want to count the absolute nothing pass-defense that was coached by someone. How in the world can someone get so far behind our defense in this situation? I just wish Ryan had a stronger arm, and he could have hit Jones in stride, and we caould have gotten the ball back with a minute and a half.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-35730463802637839822012-10-01T11:54:54.655-04:002012-10-01T11:54:54.655-04:00The mistakes and lack of NFL football intensity lo...The mistakes and lack of NFL football intensity lost this game. Last time I checked, a running back can't continue to chew up yards if you break his knees instead of trying to dance with him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-14545230893590974202012-10-01T11:18:45.306-04:002012-10-01T11:18:45.306-04:00How about stopping Turner from going 16 yards ever...How about stopping Turner from going 16 yards every time he touches the ball? I don't know why the Falcons didn't just run him every play, so the D-line could miss him and the linebackers and secondary could just pinball off of him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-52997499398053359962012-10-01T11:12:41.422-04:002012-10-01T11:12:41.422-04:00There were more then 2 coaching mistakes.. I have ...There were more then 2 coaching mistakes.. I have seen better tackles in HS and college the the Panthers make each week. Most of the Panthers tackle high and try to ride down the runner.I was a small defensive player in HS and college. I learned early, that you keep your head up and hit below the waist. Nobody can run very far if you hold his legs or just one leg. Most open field tackles are made that way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-82710889394843716562012-10-01T11:09:41.337-04:002012-10-01T11:09:41.337-04:00Cam Newton : I LOVE the A-Town stomp & celebra...Cam Newton : I LOVE the A-Town stomp & celebration. Nevermind these STUCK UP fans here. KEEP CELEBRATING bruh. Ur in the NFL, they're not!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-43080328925668483452012-10-01T11:09:32.713-04:002012-10-01T11:09:32.713-04:00The punt was wrong. No way do you think that it...The punt was wrong. No way do you think that it's downed ANYWHERE past the 10 with it most likely being a touchback and coming out at the 20. That gives a QB who has thrown for over 300 yards before then 25-35 more yards. Big deal. He would have beaten us no matter what if he had the ball but wouldn't have if we had picked up the first down but we didn't even try. Worthless coaching.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-5206004966278697872012-10-01T11:01:49.025-04:002012-10-01T11:01:49.025-04:00If you watched him in the Giants game and the Falc...If you watched him in the Giants game and the Falcons game it is quite obvious that he has no business being on the field. He is the weakest link on defence. Too tenative. Not athletic enough to play his position. He should not be starting.<br /><br /><br />Look at the Falcons scoring plays and I will show you a player that ran out of position on the Turner TD and missed a tackle. On the Roddy White's first TD Nakamura was turned around the wrong way. On White's second TD he got there late in support. On the long throw to White from the 1, there is no way that Nakamura should have been beat on that throw.<br /><br />He is too timid. Too small. Reluctant to hit and cannot support the run.<br /><br />I am really surprised that he starting. He is hurting the Panthers in a big way. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1757788746378060243.post-46965010190541046012012-10-01T10:40:46.050-04:002012-10-01T10:40:46.050-04:00And if the Panthers went for it and didn't get...And if the Panthers went for it and didn't get it, it's still the right call. Challenge your top players to make a play to win the game. Then challenge your defense to win the game. It's the mindset. To say you're too scared to try to get 1 yard when you need it to win sends the wrong message to the team. Even if they didn't convert, the defense could still have stopped them. But, Rivera took that option away, and put it all on his putrid defense. And where was the coach to keep them in the game, to tell Nakamura "Stay back at the 50"? Hardy said he thought the game was over when the ball was on the one. The Panthers stopped playing, but the Falcons went out and won the game. Rivera has proven to be a shoddy coach.Paul McDonaldnoreply@blogger.com